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I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 14:52
by snake33
It would open up the division and Wilder might be forced to be more humble.
Wilder's problem is he is a pompous jerk. BOMB SQUAD isn't motivating for fans,
it's annoying. Let's see if he has the character to make a comeback.
Ortiz almost had him the last time. He can do it.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 14:58
by gilgamesh
What about "To this day!" that do anything for ya? Because he was sure proud of it
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:21
by KiwiRider
If it was anyone else besides Ortiz, then yes, I would love someone to clean his clock.
The only reason I don't want it to be Ortiz (and the same applied to Stiverne) is that he is too old to carry on a good run in the division. It needs to be a young guy making a future legacy KO of Wilder. It's better for the sport. There are already too many geezers in the top #30 that need to go. Pulev, Povitkin, Ortiz, Takem etc. Those guys need to pack it in, and let the next wave wash through.
I really want someone to shut Wilder up, but it needs to be someone with a future, not someone on the tail end of a lacklustre career.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:22
by greg
snake33 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 14:52
It would open up the division and Wilder might be forced to be more humble.
Wilder's problem is he is a pompous jerk.
BOMB SQUAD isn't motivating for fans,
it's annoying. Let's see if he has the character to make a comeback.
Ortiz almost had him the last time. He can do it.
I prefer BUM SQUAD..
.. yeah, I sort of enjoy upsets..
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:22
by Ilya Muromets
snake33 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 14:52
It would open up the division and Wilder might be forced to be more humble.
Wilder's problem is he is a pompous jerk. BOMB SQUAD isn't motivating for fans,
it's annoying. Let's see if he has the character to make a comeback.
Ortiz almost had him the last time. He can do it.
I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Me too.
Ortiz almost had him the last time.
He needed the house referee and ring doctor (May I see his medical degree, please?) to stop the fight and give him a timely checkup ("stick out your tongue and say ahh") to save his ass.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:23
by margaret thatcher
Pretty sure the only reason Wilder wasn't brutally KO'd last time was because of his beard
Something about a break between rounds too, anyone else notice that
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:28
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 15:23
Pretty sure the only reason Wilder wasn't brutally KO'd last time was because of his beard
Something about a break between rounds too, anyone else notice that
(especially the beard)
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:32
by oogiebe
snake33 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 14:52
It would open up the division and Wilder might be forced to be more humble.
Wilder's problem is he is a pompous jerk. BOMB SQUAD isn't motivating for fans,
it's annoying. Let's see if he has the character to make a comeback.
Ortiz almost had him the last time. He can do it.
This will be shorter than last time. Don't expect any Ortiz heroics.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:33
by Ilya Muromets
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 15:23
Pretty sure the only reason Wilder wasn't brutally KO'd last time was because of his beard
Something about a break between rounds too, anyone else notice that
Yes, something about that too, but it's hard to notice because they've mostly scoured the internet of the complete round number eight when the monkey business occurred, namely right after it started. I repeat RIGHT AFTER IT STARTED. Not between the rounds but after round 8 started..
As for beards in boxing , I don't like it and for many years it wasn't allowed for very good reasons which are just as good now, and some rules still disallow it, but they seem to be allowing it almost everyplace now and if there are rules against it they are being ignored.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:34
by oogiebe
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 15:33
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 15:23
Pretty sure the only reason Wilder wasn't brutally KO'd last time was because of his beard
Something about a break between rounds too, anyone else notice that
Yes, something about that too, but it's hard to notice because they've mostly scoured the internet of the complete round number eight when the monkey business occurred, namely right after it started. I repeat RIGHT AFTER IT STARTED. Not between the rounds but after round 8 started..
As for beards in boxing , I don't like it and for many years it wasn't allowed for very good reasons which are just as good now, and some rules still disallow it, but they seem to be allowing it almost everyplace now and if there are rules against it they are being ignored.
Scandalous.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:35
by margaret thatcher
Ortiz's biggest heroics would be overcoming high blood pressure
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:36
by oogiebe
Regarding the thread title, the only one I'd be rooting for is probably DDD. He just turned 22 and if he is as good as I hope he will be, he can unify and reign for quite some time.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:41
by Ilya Muromets
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 15:34...
Scandalous.
Look you, I'm paying you to laugh at my jokes. That's all.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 15:50
by oogiebe
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 15:41
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 15:34...
Scandalous.
Look you, I'm paying you to laugh at my jokes. That's all.
oh shvt! I forgot!
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 20:04
by Bandog
I too hope Ortiz wins. It would mean the world to him and his family.
I credit Wilder though to face him again, where most heavies have found a way to avoid Ortiz. Dangerous fight with a big money fight in Feb.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 26 Sep 2019, 20:24
by sturm vogel
If bad luck comes in threes, Wilder can expect something unexpected in this fight. What could that be? Maybe Wilder injures himself in this one and loses by TKO being unable to continue?
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 00:48
by Enlightened-One
snake33 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 14:52
I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Do you honestly want a fighter that tested positive for banned substance on two occasions, as well as being known for ducking fellow marquee heavyweights like Dillian Whyte and Anthony Joshua, coupled with having an absolutely dire resume in the pro ranks, ruling the heavyweight division?
Everything about Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz’s “fearsome” reputation has been based on claims that none of the other world-rated heavyweights want to face him, but the sad objective and blatantly obvious truth of reality is that his team haven’t made any offers to the Cuban’s peers.
In fact, we know for certain that Ortiz has actually rejected multiple opportunities to engage in big fights!
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 27 Sep 2019, 00:52
by margaret thatcher
Bandog wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 20:04
I too hope Ortiz wins. It would mean the world to him and his family.
I credit Wilder though to face him again, where most heavies have found a way to avoid Ortiz. Dangerous fight with a big money fight in Feb.
I thought you couldn't stand drug cheats. Or am I thinking of a different poster...I might be
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 29 Sep 2019, 09:52
by Bandog
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Sep 2019, 00:52
Bandog wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 20:04
I too hope Ortiz wins. It would mean the world to him and his family.
I credit Wilder though to face him again, where most heavies have found a way to avoid Ortiz. Dangerous fight with a big money fight in Feb.
I thought you couldn't stand drug cheats. Or am I thinking of a different poster...I might be
I can't but not many top heavys left that are clean. Let's see there is Joshua, Ortiz, Wilder, and Parker?
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 29 Sep 2019, 10:58
by nmhz
as much as I would like to see it, Ortiz ain't winning the rematch. A nice thought but it ain't happening
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 29 Sep 2019, 11:32
by margaret thatcher
Bandog wrote: ↑29 Sep 2019, 09:52
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Sep 2019, 00:52
I thought you couldn't stand drug cheats. Or am I thinking of a different poster...I might be
I can't but not many top heavys left that are clean. Let's see there is Joshua, Ortiz, Wilder, and Parker?
Ortiz failed twice
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 29 Sep 2019, 16:16
by snake33
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 Sep 2019, 00:48
snake33 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 14:52
I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Do you honestly want a fighter that tested positive for banned substance on two occasions, as well as being known for ducking fellow marquee heavyweights like Dillian Whyte and Anthony Joshua, coupled with having an absolutely dire resume in the pro ranks, ruling the heavyweight division?
Everything about Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz’s “fearsome” reputation has been based on claims that none of the other world-rated heavyweights want to face him, but the sad objective and blatantly obvious truth of reality is that his team haven’t made any offers to the Cuban’s peers.
In fact, we know for certain that Ortiz has actually rejected multiple opportunities to engage in big fights!
Let's be honest, Ortiz would not rule the heavyweight division even if he got a clean shot in and waxed Wilder. He would be beat or vacate the title within a fight or two. Frankly that adds to his appeal in this situation. Put Wilder on his can and then take a hike. and we don't have to wait for Dubois (or somebody) to get their act together. And maybe the new humble, sportsmanlike Wilder will make a comeback. A wonderful new world.
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 29 Sep 2019, 17:34
by Contendeh
He won’t.
He’s only gotten older and if he makes it to fight night without testing positive for something banned consider that a minor miracle
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 29 Sep 2019, 18:17
by Impractical Poster
Looks like we're going to have some disappointed fans after this fight.
Bomb squad!
Re: I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Posted: 29 Sep 2019, 20:33
by KiwiRider
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 Sep 2019, 00:48
snake33 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2019, 14:52
I hope Ortiz KOs Wilder
Do you honestly want a fighter that tested positive for banned substance on two occasions, as well as being known for ducking fellow marquee heavyweights like Dillian Whyte and Anthony Joshua, coupled with having an absolutely dire resume in the pro ranks, ruling the heavyweight division?
Everything about Luis ‘King Kong’ Ortiz’s “fearsome” reputation has been based on claims that none of the other world-rated heavyweights want to face him, but the sad objective and blatantly obvious truth of reality is that his team haven’t made any offers to the Cuban’s peers.
In fact, we know for certain that Ortiz has actually rejected multiple opportunities to engage in big fights!
He was also dropped off the books at Matchroom due to poor performances. Then suddenly he is a viable opponent for Wilder after Eddie didn't think it was worth keeping Ortiz around to face Joshua.