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Thurman on the Spence-Porter fight:

“Look, I’ve said this many times and I feel like this is another fight that really proves it. You got 20,000 people watching, you’ve got hundreds of thousands that paid for the PPV, right? I saw it, you saw it — there’s three people that matter. There’s three people who’s opinion matter...everybody else is everybody else.

“So [Spence] can win the fight, split decision is a good decision, but I still had the margins close, tighter than that...When Shawn Porter’s doing what Shawn Porter does there’s certain judges that give Shawn a lot of credit because he’s putting in work. There’s other judges that give him no credit, and why is that? Because they don’t see what he’s doing. It’s so short, it’s on the inside, it’s being smothered. As long as [his opponent] is composed and has his hands up in some fashion...if you’re not slapping their head back, if you’re not turning heads, what are you doing? It’s hard to tell what you’re doing if that’s not what you’re doing.”

On how he would compare the Spence-Porter fight to his fight with Porter:

“I think I beat Shawn in cleaner fashion. My judges agreed, I won by unanimous — even with the fact that some people felt differently too. I got those three judges to say unanimous, this was a split, it was the closest fight of Errol’s career. We’ve all been waiting for this moment just to really say ‘hey, it wasn’t that easy.’

“Congratulations to [Spence]. I know the feeling to unify, it’s tremendous. He’s doing a great job, this was an excellent fight, it rivals me and Pacquiao. I was saying that’s what they need to do and they did it. I’m truly impressed with tonight’s performance from both fighters. I think Shawn Porter gets more respect in the welterweight division and I still just believe that with all of us being young, strong, and hungry, it’s still anybody’s division.”

Thurman is trying his best to stay relevant without proving it in the ring. I had Thurman/Porter scored 115-113 for Thurman. I scored Spence/Porter 116-111 for Spence.

Brook defused the Porter aggression the best still

Thurman and Spence did similarly. Edge Spence for a KD

Does anyone think Ugas beat Porter more clearer than Spence?

Thurman is done. Porter would beat him by wide decision in rematch. Crawford and Spence probably stop him. Not many fighters can climb that ladder after shoulder injury and elbow surgery.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 06:39 Does anyone think Ugas beat Porter more clearer than Spence?

I don't know about cleaner, but Ugas did better boxing Porter than Spence did.

Thurman had a more convincing win indeed.

So Thurman is saying he wants a piece of Spence then? Or is it still like "nah" on that

gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 12:47 So Thurman is saying he wants a piece of Spence then? Or is it still like "nah" on that

Yeah, he could win Porter more convincingly, but he'll lose to Spence. Moreover, now he'll lose to Porter.

He'll know the true meaning of ass whooping if he ever sacks up and fights Errol. Keith has nothing for him. Dominant body shot ko.

I'm a little curious now to see how manny pacquiao goes up against spence.

Trent wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 15:05 I'm a little curious now to see how manny pacquiao goes up against spence.

Will there be drug testing.

Thurman should just shut his mouth. His fight with both Porter and Garcia were very close. He lost to a 40 yr old Manny Pacquiao and has clearly not wanted anything to do with Spence. He should fight Crawford, he is available if he thinks he is so good. He took off two years for a bruised hand and arthroscopic surgery on his elbow. Pretty lame excuses to avoid Spence.

Right now I would rank Ugas above Thurman, with Crawford, Spence, Pacquiao, and Porter above Ugas.

Bandog wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 17:46 Thurman should just shut his mouth. His fight with both Porter and Garcia were very close. He lost to a 40 yr old Manny Pacquiao and has clearly not wanted anything to do with Spence. He should fight Crawford, he is available if he thinks he is so good. He took off two years for a bruised hand and arthroscopic surgery on his elbow. Pretty lame excuses to avoid Spence.

Right now I would rank Ugas above Thurman, with Crawford, Spence, Pacquiao, and Porter above Ugas.

Thurman beat Garcia easy. He just gave away the last 3 rounds.

i had Spence winning 116-111. 8-4 rounds.

115-112 Spence
115-113 Thurman
116-112 Brook

for me

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 19:15

Bandog wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 17:46 Thurman should just shut his mouth. His fight with both Porter and Garcia were very close. He lost to a 40 yr old Manny Pacquiao and has clearly not wanted anything to do with Spence. He should fight Crawford, he is available if he thinks he is so good. He took off two years for a bruised hand and arthroscopic surgery on his elbow. Pretty lame excuses to avoid Spence.

Right now I would rank Ugas above Thurman, with Crawford, Spence, Pacquiao, and Porter above Ugas.

Thurman beat Garcia easy. He just gave away the last 3 rounds.

It's a 12 round fight. Whether you "give away" a few rounds at the start, middle, or at the end as you say, your opponent usually has something to do with that. Results matter, and the result was a close fight.

Bandog wrote: ↑02 Oct 2019, 07:09

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 19:15

Thurman beat Garcia easy. He just gave away the last 3 rounds.

It's a 12 round fight. Whether you "give away" a few rounds at the start, middle, or at the end as you say, your opponent usually has something to do with that. Results matter, and the result was a close fight.

Well, Thurman used his footwork and did not do anything, it was because of him, that Garcia did more. It's the only reason he got a split decision.

Can we all agree that the Porter that Spence fought was a better "Porter" than the Porter that Thurman fought?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 14:35 Can we all agree that the Porter that Spence fought was a better "Porter" than the Porter that Thurman fought?

Not sure, I mean I just thought Porter lost to Ugas one fight before Spence and looked pretty humdrum. Shawn did bring it last Saturday though for sure.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 14:36

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 14:35 Can we all agree that the Porter that Spence fought was a better "Porter" than the Porter that Thurman fought?

Not sure, I mean I just thought Porter lost to Ugas one fight before Spence and looked pretty humdrum. Shawn did bring it last Saturday though for sure.

Porter does well when he fights close.. The Ugas fight, he didn't get close.. That's why he was so poor.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 14:36

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 14:35 Can we all agree that the Porter that Spence fought was a better "Porter" than the Porter that Thurman fought?

Not sure, I mean I just thought Porter lost to Ugas one fight before Spence and looked pretty humdrum. Shawn did bring it last Saturday though for sure.

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Ugas was an off night for Shawn, and I think he was lucky to get the nod.
He really brought it for Spence. That Porter (IMO) would have beaten Thurman in their fight. More so now.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 14:40

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 14:36

Not sure, I mean I just thought Porter lost to Ugas one fight before Spence and looked pretty humdrum. Shawn did bring it last Saturday though for sure.

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Ugas was an off night for Shawn, and I think he was lucky to get the nod.
He really brought it for Spence. That Porter (IMO) would have beaten Thurman in their fight. More so now.

It was 3 years ago, and Thurman was arguably the #1 WW at the time.

Styles make the fights!! Thurman's style was more troublesome for Porter. Plus Thurman back then was a better fighter. IMO Spence's style would give Keith more trouble and Errol would beat the Thurman of today or 3 years ago.

Best Coast wrote: ↑03 Oct 2019, 17:39 Styles make the fights!! Thurman's style was more troublesome for Porter. Plus Thurman back then was a better fighter. IMO Spence's style would give Keith more trouble and Errol would beat the Thurman of today or 3 years ago.

I agree. There is a reason why Thurman wanted no part of Spence for the last several years. Credit to Porter for being well prepared and giving us a great fight vs Spence.