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oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Oct 2019, 17:56 With his conversion of points from CW and his win over Chazz, Usyk enters the rankings at 4, above Fury.

I get the how the points system works, but in my opinion, he should be at 5.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 17:13

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Oct 2019, 17:56 With his conversion of points from CW and his win over Chazz, Usyk enters the rankings at 4, above Fury.

I get the how the points system works, but in my opinion, he should be at 5.

Well I was browsing the threads and saw this and gotta bring it up quickly again---but you say he should be at 5 but then don't want him top 15 in our rankings?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 17:52 Did anybody realise that Chris Eubank Jr. is rated above Oleksandr Usyk, Naoya Inoue, Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua in BoxRec’s pound-for-pound rankings?

That’s how deeply-flawed BoxRec’s ratings system is.

I could provide quite a few problematic and weird examples to support my stance.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 17:13

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Oct 2019, 17:56 With his conversion of points from CW and his win over Chazz, Usyk enters the rankings at 4, above Fury.

I get the how the points system works, but in my opinion, he should be at 5.

Well I was browsing the threads and saw this and gotta bring it up quickly again---but you say he should be at 5 but then don't want him top 15 in our rankings?

tiny_acres wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 20:08

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 17:13

Well I was browsing the threads and saw this and gotta bring it up quickly again---but you say he should be at 5 but then don't want him top 15 in our rankings?

This actually made me laugh

Boxtune wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 20:22Boxrec HW ranking is f$@king BULLSHIT. why the fornicate whyte , Miller ( DRUG CHEATS)

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 03:39

Boxtune wrote: ↑16 Oct 2019, 20:22Boxrec HW ranking is f$@king BULLSHIT. why the fornicate whyte , Miller ( DRUG CHEATS)

To be fair, neither Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller have been officially charged with consuming PED’s.

Boxtune wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 04:02

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 03:39
To be fair, neither Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller have been officially charged with consuming PED’s.

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 04:22

Boxtune wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 04:02

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

I don’t know why you’re so offended about this issue, as well as my feedback.

Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller haven’t received any punishment (yet) for consuming PED’s. At this point in time, they’re both free to resume their careers and engage in bouts. It's not as if I'm personally to blame for this situation.

BoxRec’s ratings are based on statistics and real-world facts, such as fighters not being banned and engaging in bouts. Emotions and opinions aren’t within the scope of their points calculations. Perhaps I'm an idiot for appreciating this fact.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 04:22

Boxtune wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 04:02

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

I don’t know why you’re so offended about this issue, as well as my feedback.

Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller haven’t received any punishment (yet) for consuming PED’s. At this point in time, they’re both free to resume their careers and engage in bouts. It's not as if I'm personally to blame for this situation.

BoxRec’s ratings are based on statistics and real-world facts, such as fighters not being banned and engaging in bouts. Emotions and opinions aren’t within the scope of their points calculations. Perhaps I'm an idiot for appreciating this fact.

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 08:09

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 04:22
I don’t know why you’re so offended about this issue, as well as my feedback.

Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller haven’t received any punishment (yet) for consuming PED’s. At this point in time, they’re both free to resume their careers and engage in bouts. It's not as if I'm personally to blame for this situation.

BoxRec’s ratings are based on statistics and real-world facts, such as fighters not being banned and engaging in bouts. Emotions and opinions aren’t within the scope of their points calculations. Perhaps I'm an idiot for appreciating this fact.

EO is right. Nothing official has been put down on either Miller or Whyte. BoxRec will take the appropriate steps if/when something official occurs.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 08:15

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 08:09

EO is right. Nothing official has been put down on either Miller or Whyte. BoxRec will take the appropriate steps if/when something official occurs.

Out of curiosity what is boxrec's policy on rating suspended fighters?

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 08:22

tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 08:15

Out of curiosity what is boxrec's policy on rating suspended fighters?

Good question for John.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 08:31

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 08:22
Good question for John.

Like I said kind of curious. I don't recall Canelo being removed when he served his joke of a suspension

Boxtune wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 04:02

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 03:39
To be fair, neither Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller have been officially charged with consuming PED’s.

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 09:08

Boxtune wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 04:02

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

Doesn’t mean nothing? So it means something??

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 08:09

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 04:22
I don’t know why you’re so offended about this issue, as well as my feedback.

Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller haven’t received any punishment (yet) for consuming PED’s. At this point in time, they’re both free to resume their careers and engage in bouts. It's not as if I'm personally to blame for this situation.

BoxRec’s ratings are based on statistics and real-world facts, such as fighters not being banned and engaging in bouts. Emotions and opinions aren’t within the scope of their points calculations. Perhaps I'm an idiot for appreciating this fact.

EO is right. Nothing official has been put down on either Miller or Whyte. BoxRec will take the appropriate steps if/when something official occurs.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 12:48

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 08:09

EO is right. Nothing official has been put down on either Miller or Whyte. BoxRec will take the appropriate steps if/when something official occurs.

Keep in mind fighters get official medical/precautionary suspensions all the time after fights, and BoxRec doesn't remove these fighters from the rankings.

oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 12:49

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Oct 2019, 12:48

Keep in mind fighters get official medical/precautionary suspensions all the time after fights, and BoxRec doesn't remove these fighters from the rankings.

After further thought, I imagine BoxRec only removes fighters for length of inactivity.

oogiebe wrote: ↑13 Oct 2019, 17:56 With his conversion of points from CW and his win over Chazz, Usyk enters the rankings at 4, above Fury.

I get the how the points system works, but in my opinion, he should be at 5.