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Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 04:23
by JimStone
It seems like it to me but that's obviously just anecdotal. Maybe there's just more global coverage and reporting.

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 04:47
by tobyh5
I have noticed this too and wondered exactly the same. Be interested to see the year by year statistics of brain injuries / fatalities to see how it is in reality

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 04:48
by Wee Tommy
The weight cutting craze going on is doing much much more harm than good imo

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 15:54
by margaret thatcher
Wee Tommy wrote: 15 Oct 2019, 04:48 The weight cutting craze going on is doing much much more harm than good imo
Surely the weight cutting is a factor, and it seems like now more than ever the weight games are extreme and rampant

I read that the dehydrated brain shrinks, leaving more space between the brain and skull, and hence the potential for greater impact between the two when the boxer is hit

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 16:02
by Manchester Massive
You would think that with HGH, more advanced PED's, improved strength and conditioning etc that a lot of boxers are hitting far harder than their predecessors did in the same weight categories

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 16:41
by Wee Tommy
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Oct 2019, 15:54
Wee Tommy wrote: 15 Oct 2019, 04:48 The weight cutting craze going on is doing much much more harm than good imo
Surely the weight cutting is a factor, and it seems like now more than ever the weight games are extreme and rampant

I read that the dehydrated brain shrinks, leaving more space between the brain and skull, and hence the potential for greater impact between the two when the boxer is hit

Yup so they say, and it reduces the protective cushioning between skull and brain also. My pals constantly on a diet he’s about 14-0 and I worry a bit. He’s very dedicated and really up to speed on the ‘science’ of weight cuts but still worry.

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 17:00
by Coco
Manchester Massive wrote: 15 Oct 2019, 16:02 You would think that with HGH, more advanced PED's, improved strength and conditioning etc that a lot of boxers are hitting far harder than their predecessors did in the same weight categories
I was thinking about this the other day, there does seem to be more injuries and I was wondering about if HGH's etc are so prevalent it could have an impact.
Not so much to hit harder just to continue hitting harder over a longer period and also for the other fighter to keep going.

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 17:17
by coneye
Agree with the sentiments about weight cutting , I don't think boxers are hitting any harder than they ever have , just hitting weight drained opponents , , Personaly i feel over the years the so called science part of the sport has run away with itself , too many people claiming to be experts , , , Course theres a place for everything , but its boxing and you have to be strong , not drained

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 17:54
by spudder56
coneye wrote: 15 Oct 2019, 17:17 Agree with the sentiments about weight cutting , I don't think boxers are hitting any harder than they ever have , just hitting weight drained opponents , , Personaly i feel over the years the so called science part of the sport has run away with itself , too many people claiming to be experts , , , Course theres a place for everything , but its boxing and you have to be strong , not drained
Dehydration is what does it when diet fails the trainer then drys them out which is absolutely stupid then try and put 3or 4 weeks lack of fluid back into the boxer in 36 hours it’s a very dangerous stupid practice

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 17:54
by spudder56
coneye wrote: 15 Oct 2019, 17:17 Agree with the sentiments about weight cutting , I don't think boxers are hitting any harder than they ever have , just hitting weight drained opponents , , Personaly i feel over the years the so called science part of the sport has run away with itself , too many people claiming to be experts , , , Course theres a place for everything , but its boxing and you have to be strong , not drained
Dehydration is what does it when diet fails the trainer then drys them out which is absolutely stupid then try and put 3or 4 weeks lack of fluid back into the boxer in 36 hours it’s a very dangerous stupid practice

Re: Are serious boxing related brain injuries on the increase?

Posted: 15 Oct 2019, 17:58
by 3132DW
spudder56 wrote: 15 Oct 2019, 17:54
coneye wrote: 15 Oct 2019, 17:17 Agree with the sentiments about weight cutting , I don't think boxers are hitting any harder than they ever have , just hitting weight drained opponents , , Personaly i feel over the years the so called science part of the sport has run away with itself , too many people claiming to be experts , , , Course theres a place for everything , but its boxing and you have to be strong , not drained
Dehydration is what does it when diet fails the trainer then drys them out which is absolutely stupid then try and put 3or 4 weeks lack of fluid back into the boxer in 36 hours it’s a very dangerous stupid practice
There was a fighter a few weeks back and as you say he’d put on something the 25lb from weigh in to getting in the ring - that can’t be healthy cutting to bare minimum then piling it back on.

Jockey as well recently and all he’d had was some lettuce and tea for 3 days just to get to the Racing Weight for big race ride - it can’t be good short term never mind long term.