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The sooner Miller gets his face re-arrranged in the ring the better.

Who knows, he may have just wanted to see a good competitive fight at the highest level, Fighters are fans too, Usyk was also there (Sitting next to Bob Arum who had Loma on the other side of him) I am pretty sure Usyk and Lomachenko know/are friends with Gvozdyk Personally, so they may have also wanted to support their friend, even if it wasn't business related.

1okstcsb wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 18:13 Who knows, he may have just wanted to see a good competitive fight at the highest level, Fighters are fans too, Usyk was also there (Sitting next to Bob Arum who had Loma on the other side of him) I am pretty sure Usyk and Lomachenko know/are friends with Gvozdyk Personally, so they may have also wanted to support their friend, even if it wasn't business related.

Loma and Usyk were there for Nail.

It's no secret. They need opponents for fury.

Jarell miller shouldn't be fighting, at least another 2 years until he is clean.

Top Rank, Jarrell 'Big Baby' Miller finalize co-promotional deal

Heavyweight Jarrell "Big Baby" Miller, aiming to reinvigorate his career after multiple failed drug tests last year that cost him a world title shot and millions of dollars, has finalized a co-promotional deal with Top Rank.

Terms were not disclosed for the deal, which had been in the works for months and nearly fell apart two weeks ago before being agreed to on Tuesday. It will bring Miller's bouts to ESPN platforms as part of the network's deal with Top Rank, which comes on board to promote Miller along with Dmitriy Salita and Greg Cohen.

"All parties have signed off on the agreement," Top Rank vice president Carl Moretti told ESPN. "There is no set date for his comeback. We are currently reviewing the schedule."

The three promoters, Miller and his new manager, James Prince, had finally agreed to all the terms and were due to sign the agreement two weeks ago in Atlantic City, New Jersey, where Salita Promotions and Top Rank were putting on events on back-to-back nights.

But after all the details had been ironed out, Salita went back to Top Rank chairman Bob Arum in an attempt to renegotiate elements of the agreement, multiple sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN. An irate Arum washed his hands of the deal, but cooler heads eventually prevailed and they signed the original agreement.

Miller was so upset by the situation in Atlantic City that, according to sources, he had a physical altercation with Salita, whom he has been promoted by since early in his pro career but has long had a rocky relationship with.

Salita declined to discuss the difficulties in getting the deal signed or any physical confrontation with Miller but said he was happy the agreement was done and that he looked forward to Miller's return to the ring.

"Top Rank -- Bob Arum -- was my first promoter when I was fighting, so I have seen as a fighter how they operate," said Salita, a former pro welterweight. "They're very professional, a top-tier company. With their matchmaking and marketing, they get the fighters the biggest opportunities, and I know they will do that for Jarrell. Bob Arum is a living legend and I am glad he has seen the potential Jarrell has and I know he will get him the biggest opportunities possible.

"Top Rank promotes Tyson Fury, and with the way he can talk and fight and with the way Jarrell can talk and fight, if they both continue to be successful, that will be a mega event in the near future."

Initially, the plan was for Miller to return on Feb. 22, likely against former world title challenger Carlos Takam, at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas to fight on the pay-per-view undercard of the heavyweight world championship rematch between titlist Deontay Wilder and lineal champion Fury. However, because it took so long for the co-promotional deal to be signed, it was too late to add Miller to the show. When he will return has not been determined.

The 6-foot-4, 300-pound Miller (23-0-1, 20 KOs), 31, of Brooklyn, New York, has not fought since he knocked out then-undefeated Bogdan Dinu in the fourth round on Nov. 17, 2018, in Mulvane, Kansas.

Miller was then tapped to challenge England's Anthony Joshua for his three world title belts on June 1, when Joshua would make his American debut at Madison Square Garden in New York.

However, Miller was dropped from the fight about month beforehand because the New York State Athletic Commission refused to issue him a boxing license after he failed four Voluntary Anti-Doping Association-administered random drug tests for three different banned substances -- GW1516, humane growth hormone and EPO -- over the span of a few days.

Andy Ruiz Jr. famously took Miller's place on short notice and made history with a monumental upset victory, as he knocked Joshua out in the seventh round to win the belts before losing them via one-sided decision in their rematch on Dec. 7.

After the failed tests, Miller initially denied knowingly taking any banned substances. But he later recanted and acknowledged taking them in a video he posted to social media.

"This is your boy 'Big Baby' Miller here," an emotional Miller said at the time. "A lot can be said right now. I gonna get straight to the point. I messed up. I messed up. I made a bad call. A lot of ways to handle a situation, I handled it wrongly and I'm paying the price for it. Missed out on is a big opportunity, and I'm hurtin' on the inside. My heart is bleeding right now. I hurt my family, my friends, my team, my supporters. But I'm gonna own up to it. I'm gonna deal with it, I'm gonna correct it, and I'm gonna come back better.

"I'm humbled by the experience. I understand how to handle certain things. I'm gonna leave it at that. I love you guys and I appreciate you guys out there, and as fighters we go through a lot and I don't want to make it a bad name for ourselves. It's time to do right, and get right. So I thank you guys."

Even with the admission, Miller has yet to go before a state athletic commission to be questioned about his drug use. Despite doing some interviews, Miller has yet to fully come clean about his overall drug use history, he has not admitted to the number of failed tests, said how long he used performance enhancing drugs or explained how he obtained them.

The failed tests were not the first of Miller's career. In 2014, when he was participating in Glory kickboxing, he tested positive in a urine sample for the banned substance methylhexaneamine in connection to a decision loss to Mirko Cro Cop. The California State Athletic Commission suspended Miller for nine months and fined him $2,500.

Getting dumped from the fight with Joshua cost Miller a career-high purse of $4.875 million. He was also due to earn additional money from a percentage of the pay-per-view profits from the fight on Sky Sports Box Office in the United Kingdom. In addition, Miller lost out on at least another $3 million because his deal with U.S. broadcaster DAZN for the Joshua fight called for two $1.5 million comeback fights in the event of a loss to Joshua. The biggest purse of Miller's career was a little over $500,000 for the win over Dinu.

The only fight he was vada tested he was caught for multiple drugs. He took them and was caught in k-1. He didnt participate in the wbc vada clean testing program either

Hes a perennial cheat.

Press Release

Jarrell “Big Baby” Miller, the big-talking, undefeated, 300-plus-pound heavyweight who hails from Brooklyn, has signed a multi-fight promotional deal with Top Rank. Miller, who is co-promoted by Greg Cohen Promotions and Salita Promotions, will make his Top Rank on ESPN debut in 2020.

“Jarrell Miller is serious about coming back, doing things the right way and becoming heavyweight champion of the world,” said Top Rank chairman Bob Arum. “He is one of boxing’s most unique and exciting characters, but most importantly, he can fight.”

“Minor setback for a major comeback. I’m coming for everything and everyone. No one is safe. Say hello to the bad guy,” Miller said. “Everyone wants to portray the superhero. We don’t live in a sunshine world. I’ll never be the superhero. In my world, the majority of the time, the villain wins.”

I couldn’t be happier that after months of hard work and perseverance, we were able to make this deal a reality,” said Greg Cohen, CEO of Greg Cohen Promotions. “Top Rank is the perfect partner and ESPN the perfect platform for Jarrell to realize his full potential and become the dominant force in the heavyweight division. Time for Big Baby to get back in the ring!”

“Top Rank was my first promoter when I was fighting, so I know firsthand that Bob Arum and his team will create the right opportunities for Jarrell,” said Dmitriy Salita, President of Salita Promotions. “Top Rank promotes many of the top heavyweights, including Tyson Fury, and Jarrell fits right in with all of the big names in the division. Since I started promoting Jarrell as a six-round fighter, I have been saying that he would be the next heavyweight champion from Brooklyn. Working with Top Rank, I am confident he will have the chance to realize that goal.”

Miller (23-0-1, 20 KOs) is one of boxing’s most polarizing figures, a combination-punching heavyweight who also went 22-2 as a professional kickboxer. Under the Marquess of Queensberry rules, he has won 19 consecutive bouts since a four-round draw in his fifth professional fight. From 2017-2018, he rose the ranks with dominant wins over Gerald Washington, Mariusz Wach, Johann Duhaupas and Tomasz Adamek, all of whom had previously challenged for a heavyweight world title. He last fought in November 2018, knocking out Bogdan Dinu in four rounds.

Miller signed to fight Anthony Joshua at Madison Square Garden for the unified heavyweight title last June, but he failed multiple VADA tests and was denied a license by the New York State Athletic Commission. Now, armed with a new long-term deal, Miller is determined to reclaim his status as one of the world’s best big men.

yet another top rank duffer

I can’t imagine any world-rated heavyweights wanting to face Miller, unless Bob Arum digs deep into his pockets and awards them with a monstrously huge payday.

Top fighters will quite rightly duck Miller.

Fury
Ort
Ped
Mill
Whyte
Wach
Hugh
Bermy
Molina


What do these guys have in common

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 15:13 I can’t imagine any world-rated heavyweights wanting to face Miller, unless Bob Arum digs deep into his pockets and awards them with a monstrously huge payday.

Top fighters will quite rightly duck Miller.

I'm not so sure. Firstly we need to see a clean Miller in the ring to really asses where he is at. The drugs he was busted for could well be somewhat behind what he was known for- high volume relentless come forward fighting.
A fully tested, ring rusty Miller might just be prime for the picking.

Top Wank

KiwiRider wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 15:49

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 15:13 I can’t imagine any world-rated heavyweights wanting to face Miller, unless Bob Arum digs deep into his pockets and awards them with a monstrously huge payday.

Top fighters will quite rightly duck Miller.

I'm not so sure. Firstly we need to see a clean Miller in the ring to really asses where he is at. The drugs he was busted for could well be somewhat behind what he was known for- high volume relentless come forward fighting.
A fully tested, ring rusty Miller might just be prime for the picking.

The only reason why I feel top-tier world-rated heavyweights would very likely refuse to consider facing Jarrell Miller, is because Big Baby’s reputation is currently in tatters.

The American has never been considered a commercially popular fighter that guarantees his opponents big payday’s, so the risk for facing someone like Miller (who could still be dirty) does not justify the potential reward (i.e. no kudos and only a very small purse).

For sure, other heavyweights have previously tested positive for banned substances and managed to earn a living afterwards, so it’s possible for Miller to rebuild his career, but it will take time.

At the moment, there’s no compelling reason for anyone to consider facing Miller, unless Bob Arum uses his considerable influence over the WBO to instantly propel him to the top of their rankings or alternatively Top Rank agrees to use their ESPN war-chest to fund massive paydays for his opponents.

And I feel that either scenario is very unlikely at the moment.

This man shouldn't be fighting, but we are where we are.

It will be interesting to see how big he will be now that he can't sprinkle HGH on his takeaways anymore.

When was the last time he passed a drugs test?
Will he need to pass a test to get his license and 'comeback ' fight?

Serious questions...

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 10:09 When was the last time he passed a drugs test?
Will he need to pass a test to get his license and 'comeback ' fight?

Serious questions...

Didn’t he only lose his NYSAC license?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 11:12

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 10:09 When was the last time he passed a drugs test?
Will he need to pass a test to get his license and 'comeback ' fight?

Serious questions...

Didn’t he only lose his NYSAC license?

If I remember correctly he didn't have it yet, which is why they (NYSAC) couldn't directly punish him.

oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 11:14

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 11:12

Didn’t he only lose his NYSAC license?

If I remember correctly he didn't have it yet, which is why they (NYSAC) couldn't directly punish him.

Oh yeh I remember. They didn’t give him because of the fail.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 11:12

Pukka Cheese wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 10:09 When was the last time he passed a drugs test?
Will he need to pass a test to get his license and 'comeback ' fight?

Serious questions...

Didn’t he only lose his NYSAC license?

You're absolutely right, Jarrell Miller’s license with the NYSAC had expired, so the Commission couldn’t suspend the license of a fighter that didn’t technically have one to be suspended.

Jarrell Miller did receive a six months suspension from the WBA and was removed from the rankings of all the sports governing bodies.

I believe Miller continued to be licensed to box in Illinois after his failed drug tests, because I don’t believe they were compelled to act on the outcome of his VADA test results.

I’m not sure about Miller’s current situation with the NYSAC or others, but I suspect there's a possibility that some of the state commissions may consider denying him license if he applies for one within their jurisdiction.

16th April 2020 is the one-year anniversary of VADA’s announcement that Miller had tested positive for banned substances.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 11:51

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 11:12

Didn’t he only lose his NYSAC license?

You're absolutely right, Jarrell Miller’s license with the NYSAC had expired, so the Commission couldn’t suspend the license of a fighter that didn’t technically have one to be suspended.

Jarrell Miller did receive a six months suspension from the WBA and was removed from the rankings of all the sports governing bodies.

I believe Miller continued to be licensed to box in Illinois after his failed drug tests, because I don’t believe they were compelled to act on the outcome of his VADA test results.

I’m not sure about Miller’s current situation with the NYSAC or others, but I suspect there's a possibility that some of the state commissions may consider denying him license if he applies for one within their jurisdiction.

16th April 2020 is the one-year anniversary of VADA’s announcement that Miller had tested positive for banned substances.

the english translation of this is " he is a cheating twat who should be banned for a lot longer "

stevec@france wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 14:48

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 11:51
You're absolutely right, Jarrell Miller’s license with the NYSAC had expired, so the Commission couldn’t suspend the license of a fighter that didn’t technically have one to be suspended.

Jarrell Miller did receive a six months suspension from the WBA and was removed from the rankings of all the sports governing bodies.

I believe Miller continued to be licensed to box in Illinois after his failed drug tests, because I don’t believe they were compelled to act on the outcome of his VADA test results.

I’m not sure about Miller’s current situation with the NYSAC or others, but I suspect there's a possibility that some of the state commissions may consider denying him license if he applies for one within their jurisdiction.

16th April 2020 is the one-year anniversary of VADA’s announcement that Miller had tested positive for banned substances.

the english translation of this is " he is a cheating twat who should be banned for a lot longer "

Do boxing fans really hate ped use that much, it seems they forget after not that long, guys like ort and fury don't get bagged much for it anymore

Boxtune wrote: ↑20 Oct 2019, 00:08 Jarell miller shouldn't be fighting, at least another 2 years until he is clean.

I agree 100%