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Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 24 Oct 2019, 12:57
by Ruthless-RKO
We see in movies.. Not very many sequals are better than the first movie..

They always either do worse at the box office, or reviews are just not as good. Maybe they try too hard.. I don't know..

There are a select few sequals that are ranked by the majority to be better than the first.

Example: The Godfather Part 2.

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Anyway, this is a boxing forum. I'm sure there are quite a few rematches better than the first.

In the case of a trilogy, add that in if you like..

Discuss..

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 24 Oct 2019, 13:00
by oogiebe
Holmes Vs Shavers: Holmes dominated a lop-sided decision in their first fight. In the second, there was more drama as Shavers almost ended Holmes reign only to be stopped several rounds later.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 24 Oct 2019, 13:00
by Ruthless-RKO
I'll start..

Orlando Salido vs. Roman Martinez

Leo Santa Cruz vs. Carl Frampton

Tommy Hearns vs. Sugar Ray Leonard

Riddick Bowe vs. Andrew Golota

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 24 Oct 2019, 13:36
by gilgamesh
Good call on Bowe-Golota. Not sure about Hearns vs Leonard, but it was a good rematch.

Izzy Vazquez 2 and 3 were both better than the 1st fight IMO.

Bobby Chacon vs Bazooka Limon IV was surely the best of that series, though admittedly I didn't see the first 3 it's impossible to imagine the 4th fight of the series not being the best and most dramatic.

Saad Muhammad vs Yaqui Lopez 2 is considered even more dramatic than the 1st right?

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 24 Oct 2019, 15:00
by Ruthless-RKO
gilgamesh wrote: 24 Oct 2019, 13:36 Good call on Bowe-Golota. Not sure about Hearns vs Leonard, but it was a good rematch.

Izzy Vazquez 2 and 3 were both better than the 1st fight IMO.

Bobby Chacon vs Bazooka Limon IV was surely the best of that series, though admittedly I didn't see the first 3 it's impossible to imagine the 4th fight of the series not being the best and most dramatic.

Saad Muhammad vs Yaqui Lopez 2 is considered even more dramatic than the 1st right?
Probably the best rematch fight ever..

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 24 Oct 2019, 15:11
by Caractacus
how about Zale vrs Graziano
or Ezzard Charles vrs Jersey Joe Walcott ?

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 27 Oct 2019, 19:15
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 24 Oct 2019, 13:00 I'll start..

Orlando Salido vs. Roman Martinez

Leo Santa Cruz vs. Carl Frampton

Tommy Hearns vs. Sugar Ray Leonard

Riddick Bowe vs. Andrew Golota
No way was the Leonard vs Hearns rematch better than the first

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 27 Oct 2019, 19:19
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: 27 Oct 2019, 19:15
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 24 Oct 2019, 13:00 I'll start..

Orlando Salido vs. Roman Martinez

Leo Santa Cruz vs. Carl Frampton

Tommy Hearns vs. Sugar Ray Leonard

Riddick Bowe vs. Andrew Golota
No way was the Leonard vs Hearns rematch better than the first
not even close. That first fight was one of the best fights I'd ever seen.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 27 Oct 2019, 19:27
by elmersalsa
I think Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton fight #2 was better than the original fight.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 27 Oct 2019, 19:53
by tiny_acres
elmersalsa wrote: 27 Oct 2019, 19:27 I think Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton fight #2 was better than the original fight.
Agreed

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 27 Oct 2019, 19:54
by tiny_acres
elmersalsa wrote: 27 Oct 2019, 19:27 I think Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton fight #2 was better than the original fight.
Dude it's like comparing a hamburger to a filet mignon

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 04:09
by Woldemar
Holt vs Torres.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 28 Oct 2019, 23:02
by jas80s
The second fight between Holyfield and Lewis was better than the first.

It's close, but the fourth fight between Marquez and Pacquiao was arguably the most dramatic if not the best of the four.

More recently, perhaps GGG-Canelo.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 10:24
by Ambling Alp II
"The second fight between Holyfield and Lewis was better than the first.

It's close, but the fourth fight between Marquez and Pacquiao was arguably the most dramatic if not the best of the four.

More recently, perhaps GGG-Canelo."

Agree with Lewis-Holyfield. The second Lewis-Holyfield fight was bad, but it was better than the first.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 10:39
by Onetimeonly
Bramble/Mancini was one.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 13:57
by gilgamesh
jas80s wrote: 28 Oct 2019, 23:02 The second fight between Holyfield and Lewis was better than the first.

It's close, but the fourth fight between Marquez and Pacquiao was arguably the most dramatic if not the best of the four.

More recently, perhaps GGG-Canelo.
GGG-Canelo 2 was undoubtedly a better fight :TU:

I'd probably agree with you on the 4th Marquez/Pac fight being the one, but the 1st fight is REAL close. It would only be the definitive ending that makes the 4th stand out more, but the 1st fight was great action for sure.

2nd fight was great too.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 29 Oct 2019, 14:02
by gilgamesh
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 24 Oct 2019, 13:00 I'll start..

Orlando Salido vs. Roman Martinez

Leo Santa Cruz vs. Carl Frampton

Tommy Hearns vs. Sugar Ray Leonard

Riddick Bowe vs. Andrew Golota
Everyone gave you sh*t about your Hearns/Leonard selection I'm gonna go the other route with it and give you praise about your Bowe/Golota selection.

Probably mostly forgotten due to the fact that it was yet another DQ loss for Golota, but it was a wild ass fight. Possibly the most exciting fight that ends in a DQ I can think of.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 30 Oct 2019, 15:21
by Bodyshot3
I am generally not a fan of the wee guys...….

...…. but Dave McAuley and Fidel Bassa had two exceptional, blood and thunder flyweight title fights.
The second is better but only just because they caned each other in their first encounter.

Still amazed that McAuley came out of those wars with Bassa and had a good run as the IBF champion.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 02 Nov 2019, 01:04
by AntonioMartin
I hate to say this because:
#1 I was in person at fight one and
# 2 I am Puerto Rican and the Puerto Rican guy lost fight two, but....

Ramirez-Rosario 2 was way better than Rosario-Ramirez 1.

Bramble-Mancini 2, arguably however...

Dokes-Weaver 2 was an excellent fight that went 15 instead of one...

You could say Marquez-Pacquia 4 outdid the other three...

Oh and Pacquiao-Morales 2.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 12 Nov 2019, 00:39
by AntonioMartin
I just remembered...Salido-Lopez 2

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 12 Nov 2019, 05:06
by Ruthless-RKO
AntonioMartin wrote: 12 Nov 2019, 00:39 I just remembered...Salido-Lopez 2
What about Martinez-Salido 2??

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 12 Nov 2019, 05:56
by bigjack
Bodyshot3 wrote: 30 Oct 2019, 15:21 I am generally not a fan of the wee guys...….

...…. but Dave McAuley and Fidel Bassa had two exceptional, blood and thunder flyweight title fights.
The second is better but only just because they caned each other in their first encounter.

Still amazed that McAuley came out of those wars with Bassa and had a good run as the IBF champion.
I thought the second fight was no where near as good as the first,only seen it the one time though live.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 12 Nov 2019, 07:54
by AntonioMartin
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 Nov 2019, 05:06
AntonioMartin wrote: 12 Nov 2019, 00:39 I just remembered...Salido-Lopez 2
What about Martinez-Salido 2??
Don't know because I haven't seen it... :oops:

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 12 Nov 2019, 09:01
by Flump
AntonioMartin wrote: 02 Nov 2019, 01:04 I hate to say this because:
#1 I was in person at fight one and
# 2 I am Puerto Rican and the Puerto Rican guy lost fight two, but....

Ramirez-Rosario 2 was way better than Rosario-Ramirez 1.

Bramble-Mancini 2, arguably however...

Dokes-Weaver 2 was an excellent fight that went 15 instead of one...

You could say Marquez-Pacquia 4 outdid the other three...

Oh and Pacquiao-Morales 2.
Great shout, very underrated brawl, amazing that it went 15 rounds at a good pace.

Re: Rematches which Surpassed Originals?

Posted: 12 Nov 2019, 09:25
by Matt W
Ali v Frazier 3. An obvious choice but got to be the Thrilla given that it topped even the Fight Of The Century.