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What exactly is the WBC Franchise belt?

What does the word franchise mean in terms of a boxing trophy?

Who can fight for it?

Nobody can fight for it, it is more of an ambassadorship.
If a Franchise Champion is beaten the victor does not become Franchise Champion.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 07:48 Nobody can fight for it, it is more of an ambassadorship.
If a Franchise Champion is beaten the victor does not become Franchise Champion.

Thanks for that Lee. Is there any actual point of the belt then?

MasterG wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 08:34

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 07:48 Nobody can fight for it, it is more of an ambassadorship.
If a Franchise Champion is beaten the victor does not become Franchise Champion.

Thanks for that Lee. Is there any actual point of the belt then?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ i would guess.

I just wish a star of Canelo's stature would throw all of his belts in the trash.
And just say they're a joke and they just suck the money from the sport.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 09:46 I just wish a star of Canelo's stature would throw all of his belts in the trash.
And just say they're a joke and they just suck the money from the sport.

Did Barrera do that,I can remember someone doing it a few years back,someone high profile

bigjack wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 10:54

tiny_acres wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 09:46 I just wish a star of Canelo's stature would throw all of his belts in the trash.
And just say they're a joke and they just suck the money from the sport.

Did Barrera do that,I can remember someone doing it a few years back,someone high profile

Bowe done it rather than defend against Lewis didn't he?

Stuarty wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 10:56

bigjack wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 10:54

Did Barrera do that,I can remember someone doing it a few years back,someone high profile

Bowe done it rather than defend against Lewis didn't he?

Haha yeh,but someone did it to save paying the sanctioning fees and just called themselves the champ.

At first I thought the 'franchise' tag was just the WBC saying that Canelo was their champion, the face of the WBC or an equivalent to p4p.

But then they made Loma franchise champion and there are rumours they might bestow the title on the Wilder/Fury winner.

So I have no idea what the point is in it other than pandering to big name fighters and/or promoters.

Lets the franchise champ avoid WBC mandatories

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 12:11 Lets the franchise champ avoid WBC mandatories

Really? Ffs! Bet they still have a ridiculous amount of bullshìt ranking titles as well.

Stuarty wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 12:12

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 12:11 Lets the franchise champ avoid WBC mandatories

Really? Ffs! Bet they still have a ridiculous amount of bullshìt ranking titles as well.

Franchise,Regular champ,champion emiritus,champion in recess,silver champ,diamond champ international champ,anymore ?

bigjack wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 12:25

Stuarty wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 12:12

Really? Ffs! Bet they still have a ridiculous amount of bullshìt ranking titles as well.

Franchise,Regular champ,champion emiritus,champion in recess,silver champ,diamond champ international champ,anymore ?

More belts than fukkin Burtons!

I long since stopped following all that. It’s become boring.

Stuarty wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 12:12

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 12:11 Lets the franchise champ avoid WBC mandatories

Really? Ffs! Bet they still have a ridiculous amount of bullshìt ranking titles as well.

Ya, once they get upgraded to franchise they no longer have WBC mandatories. So for example, Haney just became Loma's mandatory and that looked an interesting fight, but now since Loma became franchise, they just also upgraded Haney to full WBC and took his mandatory status away.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 14:07

Stuarty wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 12:12

Really? Ffs! Bet they still have a ridiculous amount of bullshìt ranking titles as well.

Ya, once they get upgraded to franchise they no longer have WBC mandatories. So for example, Haney just became Loma's mandatory and that looked an interesting fight, but now since Loma became franchise, they just also upgraded Haney to full WBC and took his mandatory status away.

It's literally as if they're going out their way to fukk the sport up at times

The closest examples I can think of is Groves refusing to pay for the IBO and Cotto refusing to pay for WBC

A load of pish so it is, say Commey fights Lomachenko and wins, then he wont become undisputed because Loma can't lose his Franchise belt and technically Haney is full champ, pretty impressive from We Be Crooks to outworse the WBA

handsofstone wrote: ↑04 Nov 2019, 15:29 A load of pish so it is, say Commey fights Lomachenko and wins, then he wont become undisputed because Loma can't lose his Franchise belt and technically Haney is full champ, pretty impressive from We Be Crooks to outworse the WBA

The WBChave pretty much said Loma can be undisputed, but I agree with Haney on this one, Loma has in effect vacated the belt, and he has to beat both Commey and Haney

Saying that WBC are trying to outdo WBA. They seem to be on a roll ATM. They just announced Fury who had a signed contract as Wilders voluntary, has now been upgraded to mandatory. Not sure how that can work though when the contract was already signed, unless this means anew contract is needed and there won't be a rematch clause
But it seems like Wilder will probably never face a legitimate mandatory on his way to becoming franchise champ