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Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 16 Nov 2019, 17:07
by Szaman
Gervonta Davis
Demetrius Andrade
Jermall Charlo

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Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 16 Nov 2019, 18:03
by Ruthless-RKO
Wouldn’t call Andrade a cherry picker.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 16 Nov 2019, 18:54
by KiwiRider
I guess the elephant in the room would be the recent activity of Canelo.
Fielding to call yourself a middleweight champ?
Ahhh, nope.
Krushed to call yourself a LHW champ?
Barely. Certainly on the lowest rung of LHW belt holders.

I don't hold it against him really. Just smart marketing that impresses the heck out of casuals.
We know better. :shame:

Wilder has to be the ultimate cherry picker. Although thinking Tyson Fury was rusty and an easy mark nearly backfired on him :OhYes:

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 16 Nov 2019, 19:12
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 18:03 Wouldn’t call Andrade a cherry picker.
None of them are.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 16 Nov 2019, 23:10
by AntonioMartin
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 18:54 :

Wilder has to be the ultimate cherry picker. Although thinking Tyson Fury was rusty and an easy mark nearly backfired on him :OhYes:
Shhh! He might find out where you live at and come to show you how good he is! :lol:

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 01:28
by Enlightened-One
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 18:54 I guess the elephant in the room would be the recent activity of Canelo.
Fielding to call yourself a middleweight champ?
Ahhh, nope.
Krushed to call yourself a LHW champ?
Barely. Certainly on the lowest rung of LHW belt holders.
Fielding wasn’t a middleweight and Canelo’s bout against the 2nd ranked at 175lbs Krusher was considered a 50-50 fight by the forum beforehand.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 01:46
by margaret thatcher
Canelo had a 29-6 advantage in the forum prediction game and was ahead on the polls in this forum, whether current scene or British and Irish. He was also the 4-1 betting favourite. The ESPN expert poll had him up I think 13-2, most picks going by KO, with Andre Ward doing a seperate feature where he also picked Canelo KO.

The consensus was Canelo, it was not 50-50

Canelo's resume is the best in boxing asidde from Pac's and this was a very good win, but nah, wasn't seen as 50-50 here or in most places

I posted this before the fight, and the picks simply got more lopsided in favour of Canelo

margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Oct 2019, 13:45 4:1 betting fave is Canelo
20:5 in the prediction game for Canelo
27-11 in the Brit poll for Canelo
39-34 in this poll for Canelo


Krusher needs the upset!!

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 01:56
by Enlightened-One
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 01:46 Canelo had a 29-6 advantage in the forum prediction game and was ahead on the polls in this forum... but nah, wasn't seen as 50-50 here or in most places...
The Canelo-Kovalev thread, which received about 80 votes, only gave the Mexican the slight edge, due to him receiving only 52% of the polls votes, hence the reason for my claim.

You even posted a comment on the same thread immediately after one of my posts where I conveyed my shock about the 50-50 nature of the votes submitted to the poll.

So you must have either seen the poll, my post or even both.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 01:57
by margaret thatcher
He was the clear forum favourite. Waay ahead in the prediction game, and ahead in every poll, with you singling in on the closest. It was not a 50-50 split even going by a selectively picked poll, which still had Canelo ahead 10 percent for winner

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 02:01
by margaret thatcher
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 01:56
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 01:46 Canelo had a 29-6 advantage in the forum prediction game and was ahead on the polls in this forum... but nah, wasn't seen as 50-50 here or in most places...
The Canelo-Kovalev thread, which received about 80 votes, only gave the Mexican the slight edge, due to him receiving only 52% of the polls votes, hence the reason for my claim.

You even posted a comment on the same thread immediately after one of my posts where I conveyed my shock about the 50-50 nature of the votes submitted to the poll.

So you must have either seen the poll, my post or even both.
LOLOLOL

Mate, this is some of your weakest work

Canelo was up 29-6 in the prediction game
Like 35-12 or something in the Brit section thread
54-44 percent in the CS poll
Canelo was ahead in all prediction games and polls here


Ya, totally even split on the forum right :lol:

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 02:09
by Enlightened-One
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 01:57 ....you singling in on the closest. It was not a 50-50 split even going by a selectively picked poll, which still had Canelo ahead 10 percent for winner
I quoted the stats from the thread that received significantly more views and votes than the others. And according to the stats in this poll, Canelo wasn’t favoured by a 10% margin.

At the time we both submitted posts to the same thread, Canelo was only the favoured by 52%.

My words are accurate, even though they aren’t aligned by you opinion.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 02:11
by margaret thatcher
Mate, I'm usually a fan of your work, a lot of the time you bring some perspective to the East Euro fanbois, but in this case it's just totally dishonest to say the forum couldn't split them in picking a winner. The numbers are there for people to see directly.

Even in your cherrpicked thread Canelo still is picked for winner 54 percent to only 44 for Kov. Not one bit of polling or prediction game from this forum can't split who the winner is. In the case of the prediction game we are talking like 5-1 ratio for Canelo and 3-1 for the Brit poll--and there certainly are posters who don't vote in all polls and play all games

I guess it's fitting such blatant cherrypicking is highlighted in this thread :lol:

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 02:18
by Enlightened-One
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 02:11 Mate, I'm usually a fan of your work, a lot of the time you bring some perspective to the East Euro fanbois, but in this case it's just totally dishonest to say the forum couldn't split them in picking a winner. The numbers are there for people to see directly.

Even in your cherrpicked thread Canelo still is picked for winner 54 percent to only 44 for Kov. Not one bit of polling or prediction game from this forum can't split who the winner is. In the case of the prediction game we are talking like 5-1 ratio for Canelo and 3-1 for the Brit poll--and there certainly are posters who don't vote in all polls and play all games

I guess it's fitting such blatant cherrypicking is highlighted in this thread :lol:
i didn’t express an opinion.

At the time we both submitted posts to the same thread, Canelo was only favoured by 52%.

I can’t rewrite history and the numbers are what they are.

If you want to claim that Canelo was perceived as being the overwhelming betting favourite, to the point of the bout regarded as a mismatch, everywhere else, then I wouldn’t argue with that.

Even I accurately predicted the outcome of the fight and considered it a mismatch.

That being said, the votes posted to the Canelo-Kovalev BoxRec poll were pretty much evenly split at the time we both commented on the same thread.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 02:21
by margaret thatcher
Canelo was the consensus forum favourite, as shown in him being favoured in the BoxRec prediction game, the Current Scene poll, and the British and Irish poll. He was ahead in every poll and prediction game here, some by very lopsided margins.

This is fact, 100 percent plain and simple. Hey, I don't think Canelo is a big cherry picker and I rate him as a stud and his career as a great one. It's excellent that he beat Kov. And It's no shame or anything that he was the favourite. But he was certainly the favourite :TU:

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 02:24
by margaret thatcher
On another note, they are cherrypicking pretty hard for Munguia. Oscar Valdez had some cherries as well. Actually his TR stablemate Zurdo too---though Zurdo did have some respectabe opposition as well.

Cherrypicking to me is more like being strategic on a vulnerable guy. Someone like Andrade or Charlo is just not appealing as an opponent or they are not realistic due to business divides. That's why they haven't got the fights for the most part. Also I guess for Andrade too the whole BJS things. I don't doubt that they'd fight someone like GGG or Canelo if given a reasonable offer.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 02:38
by margaret thatcher
Leo Santa Cruz's upcoming fight seems like a cherrypick, weak weak opponent for a belt 'accolade' of his 4th division. In Canelo's case he was fighting a guy who was genuinely world class and top 5, not a guy brutalized by the likes of Dat Nguyen

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 06:24
by ewenhay
Golden boy choosing Fielding for their man to pick up a super middle belt is classic cherry picking.

Matchroom paying off Martin to pick up a belt for Joshua might be the best example of cherry picking ever in the sport.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 06:26
by ewenhay
ewenhay wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 06:24 Golden boy choosing Fielding for their man to pick up a super middle belt is classic cherry picking.

Matchroom paying off Martin to pick up a belt for Joshua might be the best example of cherry picking ever in the sport.
Oh and let's not forget Mayweather picking McGregor for his 'record breaking' 50th unbeaten fight

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 06:45
by AntonioMartin
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 02:38 Leo Santa Cruz's upcoming fight seems like a cherrypick, weak weak opponent for a belt 'accolade' of his 4th division. In Canelo's case he was fighting a guy who was genuinely world class and top 5, not a guy brutalized by the likes of Dat Nguyen
I do have to say this: Kovalev's body had already been broken by three previous, long rounds defeats.....

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 07:52
by Cent0089
Oscar De la Hoya
Al Haymon
Eddie Hearn
Bob Arum
Floyd Mayweather
Don King
and other promoters. Boxers are not cherry pickers

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 08:44
by giacomino
Shumenov, when he fights.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 08:47
by Boxerbeetle
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 02:18
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 02:11 Mate, I'm usually a fan of your work, a lot of the time you bring some perspective to the East Euro fanbois, but in this case it's just totally dishonest to say the forum couldn't split them in picking a winner. The numbers are there for people to see directly.

Even in your cherrpicked thread Canelo still is picked for winner 54 percent to only 44 for Kov. Not one bit of polling or prediction game from this forum can't split who the winner is. In the case of the prediction game we are talking like 5-1 ratio for Canelo and 3-1 for the Brit poll--and there certainly are posters who don't vote in all polls and play all games

I guess it's fitting such blatant cherrypicking is highlighted in this thread :lol:
i didn’t express an opinion.

At the time we both submitted posts to the same thread, Canelo was only favoured by 52%.

I can’t rewrite history and the numbers are what they are.

If you want to claim that Canelo was perceived as being the overwhelming betting favourite, to the point of the bout regarded as a mismatch, everywhere else, then I wouldn’t argue with that.

Even I accurately predicted the outcome of the fight and considered it a mismatch.

That being said, the votes posted to the Canelo-Kovalev BoxRec poll were pretty much evenly split at the time we both commented on the same thread.
Watching you pathetically attempt to weasel out of an obvious mistake is consistently hilarious.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 09:20
by oogiebe
Boxerbeetle wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 08:47
Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 02:18
i didn’t express an opinion.

At the time we both submitted posts to the same thread, Canelo was only favoured by 52%.

I can’t rewrite history and the numbers are what they are.

If you want to claim that Canelo was perceived as being the overwhelming betting favourite, to the point of the bout regarded as a mismatch, everywhere else, then I wouldn’t argue with that.

Even I accurately predicted the outcome of the fight and considered it a mismatch.

That being said, the votes posted to the Canelo-Kovalev BoxRec poll were pretty much evenly split at the time we both commented on the same thread.
Watching you pathetically attempt to weasel out of an obvious mistake, AGAIN, is consistently hilarious.
I added a word to your post if you don't mind. Expect a 'prove me wrong' response.

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 10:06
by cormack
wilder
canelo

Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?

Posted: 17 Nov 2019, 10:11
by ValMar
Cent0089 wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 07:52 Oscar De la Hoya
Al Haymon
Eddie Hearn
Bob Arum
Floyd Mayweather
Don King
and other promoters. Boxers are not cherry pickers
This ! :TU: