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goose 5 wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:51 George claimed he wanted no part of Mike Tyson in his interview with Max Kellerman. But, he called out Tyson all throughout his comeback; I wish Kellerman had brought that point up to George. Do you guys think Foreman is guilty of false humility ?

klompton wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 12:39 I love how sheeple dont understand that Foreman's bluster in regards to Tyson was marketing. Its the oldest promotional trick in boxing. Knock over a long string of setups while talking long and loud about the biggest dog on the block. Does anyone think a guy who publicly admitted at the time he wanted no part of Lewis and Bowe, who got outboxed by Tommy Morrison of all people, and had his face rearranged by Alex Stewart really wanted to fight Mike Tyson?? No. Mike Tyson was by far the biggest name in boxing and Foreman constantly harping about that fight was marketing plain and simple.

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 12:48

klompton wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 12:39 I love how sheeple dont understand that Foreman's bluster in regards to Tyson was marketing. Its the oldest promotional trick in boxing. Knock over a long string of setups while talking long and loud about the biggest dog on the block. Does anyone think a guy who publicly admitted at the time he wanted no part of Lewis and Bowe, who got outboxed by Tommy Morrison of all people, and had his face rearranged by Alex Stewart really wanted to fight Mike Tyson?? No. Mike Tyson was by far the biggest name in boxing and Foreman constantly harping about that fight was marketing plain and simple.

So what was Foreman's end game in 87, 88, 89 and early 90? Tyson losing his titles wasn't on the cards. What exactly was he hoping would happen? I'm not sure he could look into the future and see Alex Stewart rearranging his face in 1992, or Morrison outboxing him in 1993, so I don't think that would have influenced his thinking at the time.

To me it seemed that Foreman saw a short, Frazier-like champion he would manhandle in the same way. We all know the real George has that hubris.

klompton wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 23:48

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 12:48

So what was Foreman's end game in 87, 88, 89 and early 90? Tyson losing his titles wasn't on the cards. What exactly was he hoping would happen? I'm not sure he could look into the future and see Alex Stewart rearranging his face in 1992, or Morrison outboxing him in 1993, so I don't think that would have influenced his thinking at the time.

To me it seemed that Foreman saw a short, Frazier-like champion he would manhandle in the same way. We all know the real George has that hubris.

I explained what his end game was. To keep the gravy train rolling. Thats why Bob Arum was paying to get stiff ranked for Foreman to gobble up and likely paid Moorer to lay down. It was a circus.

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 05:05

klompton wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 23:48

I explained what his end game was. To keep the gravy train rolling. Thats why Bob Arum was paying to get stiff ranked for Foreman to gobble up and likely paid Moorer to lay down. It was a circus.

So if Tyson had swept Douglas aside in one round and King offered Foreman 5m in Atlantic City in May.... You think Foreman would have turned it down?

What would he have done instead? Rematched Bigfoot Martin on USA Network for 50 grand?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 06:42

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 05:05

So if Tyson had swept Douglas aside in one round and King offered Foreman 5m in Atlantic City in May.... You think Foreman would have turned it down?

What would he have done instead? Rematched Bigfoot Martin on USA Network for 50 grand?

Tyson was cornered for his holy field ass whipping after Douglas. King wanted nothing to do with George. When they considered it they were reminded by that rodrigues ko on the Tillman card.