The source of much of Wilder's power is his fearless ability to throw big looping shots.
Should he get caught one day doing this by ortiz or whomever, will he then be afraid
to throw those type of shots and lose a major aspect of his power and effectiveness.
He really hasn't been tested much.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 15:30
by KiwiRider
Power?
The only way he loses it is through age or lack of training, and even then, it's still generated through a combination of wingspan, and fast twitch fibres.
He would only lose confidence if he was knocked out, and even then he is so full of himself it probably wouldn't be enough.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 15:32
by oogiebe
KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 15:30
Power?
The only way he loses it is through age or lack of training, and even then, it's still generated through a combination of wingspan, and fast twitch fibres.
He would only lose confidence if he was knocked out, and even then he is so full of himself it probably wouldn't be enough.
And it would depend on the circumstances. Lewis got one timed in both his losses. AJ got beaten up. Very different responses.
KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 15:30
Power?
The only way he loses it is through age or lack of training, and even then, it's still generated through a combination of wingspan, and fast twitch fibres.
He would only lose confidence if he was knocked out, and even then he is so full of himself it probably wouldn't be enough.
And it would depend on the circumstances. Lewis got one timed in both his losses. AJ got beaten up. Very different responses.
KiwiRider wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 15:30
Power?
The only way he loses it is through age or lack of training, and even then, it's still generated through a combination of wingspan, and fast twitch fibres.
He would only lose confidence if he was knocked out, and even then he is so full of himself it probably wouldn't be enough.
And it would depend on the circumstances. Lewis got one timed in both his losses. AJ got beaten up. Very different responses.
+ it takes a fair bit to knock him out, you have to get past his chin, the ref, the ringside doctors etc etc
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 15:54
by Onetimeonly
No
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 15:55
by gilgamesh
His power no, his confidence possibly.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 16:18
by greg
..being a one-trick pony he surely can't afford it, so I guess he won't...
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 16:26
by margaret thatcher
If he starts pulling his punches out of weariness he may in effect not be punching his hard, but obviously his physiology to throw a hard punch isn't changing
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 16:32
by snake33
Still as soon as Mike Tyson wasn't as fearless in his attack
he became much more beatable.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 16:41
by Impractical Poster
The man who destroyed the one chip challenge lose his power? pffft. This challenge had Shaq run out of the room and the Ninja Warrior host guy crying for an ambulance.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 16:46
by margaret thatcher
Dude getting sweaty though
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 16:48
by Onetimeonly
snake33 wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 16:32
Still as soon as Mike Tyson wasn't as fearless in his attack
he became much more beatable.
He never lost his aggression. Mike just had a low in ring iq and was a poor infighter. Still only lost twice before he was a shell.
Apparently that chip is no joke. People freaking out on YouTube after eating it.
I've seen folks cry and/or panic on youtube.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 17:27
by margaret thatcher
Wilder handled that chip, such a stud
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 17:28
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 17:27
Wilder handled that chip, such a stud
I love hot foods, but that chip is insane. Have some fun and look up on youtube the paci one chip challenge. It is truly quite the insane watch.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 20:00
by marvelous marv
Who does this during fight week?
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 20:04
by margaret thatcher
marvelous marv wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 20:00
Who does this during fight week?
It's alright marv my man
And hell, isn't fight week the time for all of it? Speculation over reactions to knockouts, last minute trash talk and hating, body on recording, etc.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 21:43
by Enlightened-One
Some of the comments I’ve been reading about Deontay Wilder in this forum recently have been utterly bizarre!
‘The Bronze Bomber’ struggled to overcome a middle-aged over hyped Cuban, he’s been hurt multiple times by mediocre opposition and the vast majority of those that witnessed his bout against Tyson Fury believed he lost that fight.
Wilder isn’t a dead-cert Hall-of-Famer, he’s accomplished nothing to suggest he should be rated above any historically-significant fighters and nor should he be considered as being the best heavyweight currently competing today.
Even if there are a few overly-sensitive souls emotionally-traumatised by the factually-accurate nature of my posts, they’re not entitled to have an opinion about any of the facts I’ve listed.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 19 Nov 2019, 21:59
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 21:43
Some of the comments I’ve been reading about Deontay Wilder in this forum recently have been utterly bizarre!
‘The Bronze Bomber’ struggled to overcome a middle-aged over hyped Cuban, he’s been hurt multiple times by mediocre opposition and the vast majority of those that witnessed his bout against Tyson Fury believed he lost that fight.
Wilder isn’t a dead-cert Hall-of-Famer, he’s accomplished nothing to suggest he should be rated above any historically-significant fighters and nor should he be considered as being the best heavyweight currently competing today.
Even if there are a few overly-sensitive souls emotionally-traumatised by the factually-accurate nature of my posts, they’re not entitled to have an opinion about any of the facts I’ve listed.
You've cast your hook in the waters. Let's see if you get a bite.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 01:23
by AntonioMartin
Anyone noticed how the next two big heavyweight fights are both rematches of seventh round ko fights? And both involve Latinos, in one case one is looking to avenge a loss and in another one one is looking to ratify a win....
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 05:58
by Enlightened-One
snake33 wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 15:07
The source of much of Wilder's power is his fearless ability to throw big looping shots.
Should he get caught one day doing this by ortiz or whomever, will he then be afraid
to throw those type of shots and lose a major aspect of his power and effectiveness.
He really hasn't been tested much.
Sometimes fighters do become gun-shy and less effective after suffering the ordeal of being KO’d, due to being hesitant to take risks and place themselves in the firing line whilst attempting to unload their own haymakers.
It doesn’t always happen though and is probably dependent on a combination of the mental strength of the individual fighter, coupled with the nature of their defeat (i.e. it’s probably easier to overcome a one-punch KO rather than a one-sided prolonged physically-punishing bruising beatdown).
We won’t know whether this will affect Wilder though, until we see it happen. And it’s bound to at some point, since most fighters suffer stoppage defeats during their careers.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 06:08
by marvelous marv
Power is the last thing to go in an aging fighter. One of the oldest rules in boxing.
Re: Will Wilder lose his power if he gets KO'd.
Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 08:49
by Paci
marvelous marv wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 06:08
Power is the last thing to go in an aging fighter. One of the oldest rules in boxing.
Word.
A big if is that Wilder loses his killer instinct, then he would be done as a fighter.
