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Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 10:02
by apollo creed
Damn, in their first fight Andy took some hard shots from AJ but he regrouped and composed himself to beat AJ. Pretty much that beating was the true definition of taking someones soul/ manhood/ etc.
"I kind of wanted to be a little heavier because Anthony Joshua's big, I wanted to carry his weight, take the punches well but I think being 10lbs lighter, I'm going to be a better fighter," Ruiz said.
"I'm going to be more faster, let my hands go and be faster on my feet as well."
"Ten pounds isn't going to make any difference, if anything it's going to make me stronger, it's going to make me faster, especially because he's going to be running around.
"I think he's going to be trying to win by points and my job is to cut the ring and do what we got to do and let my hands go, it's exactly what we have been training on in the gym."
I think that was the best version of Andy Ruiz Jr and I don't know if losing some weight will make him better because he must be able to absorb the hard punches too.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 10:16
by Ricky
I don't think losing some lard is going to hinder him. I think he's going to toast AJ.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 11:31
by apollo creed
Ricky wrote: ↑22 Nov 2019, 10:16
I don't think losing some lard is going to hinder him. I think he's going to toast AJ.
Well I think that fat helped alot Andy in the first match. It's funny to say it but it helped.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 12:08
by Finkel
apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Nov 2019, 11:31
Ricky wrote: ↑22 Nov 2019, 10:16
I don't think losing some lard is going to hinder him. I think he's going to toast AJ.
Well I think that fat helped alot Andy in the first match. It's funny to say it but it helped.
Agreed, given Joshua wasn't particularly skilled at tieing Ruiz up, he often looked to push him off when he found stepping back wasn't working.
Much easier to push around a lighter guy that a low center of gravity mass
Though I'm probably overstating the effect of a 10lb difference
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 13:24
by apollo creed
Finkel wrote: ↑22 Nov 2019, 12:08
apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Nov 2019, 11:31
Well I think that fat helped alot Andy in the first match. It's funny to say it but it helped.
Agreed, given Joshua wasn't particularly skilled at tieing Ruiz up, he often looked to push him off when he found stepping back wasn't working.
Much easier to push around a lighter guy that a low center of gravity mass
Though I'm probably overstating the effect of a 10lb difference
I think Andy cut off more weight that 10 lbs as he looks atm.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 05:28
by apollo creed
Even Roach says that losing weight is not a good idea for Andy Ruiz Jr.
“He’s a little skinnier. Does he look more presentable like that?” said Roach in continuing to criticize Ruiz’s weight loss. “This is not a modeling show. It’s a fight show. I don’t think he needs to lose weight, I don’t. They’re making him look skinny so that he looks better for the audience.
“That’s the only reason, and that’s foolish. Who gives a s— what he looks like? Yeah, he’s a little chubby, but he fights really, really well. I love watching him fight. I think his combinations are great. Yes, that is a big factor. He absorbs punches really, really well, and I’ve never seen him hurt when he’s heavy,”
“When he takes that weight off, he gets weaker, and he doesn’t feel that good,” said Roach. “I mean, I’ve been with him before, and he told me. I’ve very awed that he can do that at this level where he just beat one of the best fighters in the world, and beat him easily. It wasn’t a little [weight that Ruiz lost]. Joshua needed to lose weight, because Joshua is having problems carrying that muscle around." from BN24
After I saw that pic with Andy I think it's far more than 10 lbs of weight losing.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 06:57
by adislav123
if anything he will be more agile in upper body movement and even faster on his feet.
the power comes from his massive core. he surely didn't train to loose any muscle strenght whatsoever. rather the opposite.
15 pounds fat off the flabby midsection no way make him "weaker" or "easier to push around" or anyhow a less dangerous fighter.
his looks was what all the assholes were critizising. not that he should give a flying fvck and i don't think he lost weight for aesthetic reasons.
but it would be understandable as the bodyshaming that guy endured was epic & unbelievable. coming exclusively from turd heads without any clue about anything except looking like a penis.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 07:28
by apollo creed
adislav123 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 06:57
if anything he will be more agile in upper body movement and even faster on his feet.
the power comes from his massive core. he surely didn't train to loose any muscle strenght whatsoever. rather the opposite.
15 pounds fat off the flabby midsection no way make him "weaker" or "easier to push around" or anyhow a less dangerous fighter.
his looks was what all the assholes were critizising. not that he should give a flying fvck and i don't think he lost weight for aesthetic reasons.
but it would be understandable as the bodyshaming that guy endured was epic & unbelievable. coming exclusively from poop heads without any clue about anything except looking like a penis.
Indeed dude is obese for a pro athlete but this thing was working pretty damn good for him as we saw. Haters gonna hate and be poop heads no matter what he's gonna do. Andy is like a wrecking ball.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 07:53
by dan28uk
i defintley feel ruiz weight helped him absorb joshuas punches, so if he does lose to much i feel that will hinder in that sense, however it will help his mobility which joshua struggled with. i think joshua wins the rematch but will have some tough moments before stopping ruiz in 7-9 .
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 08:42
by apollo creed
dan28uk wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 07:53
i defintley feel ruiz weight helped him absorb joshuas punches, so if he does lose to much i feel that will hinder in that sense, however it will help his mobility which joshua struggled with. i think joshua wins the rematch but will have some tough moments before stopping ruiz in 7-9 .
Andy took some very hard full heavy shots from AJ but he recovered fast. It was crazy.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 09:00
by sturm vogel
The Nigerian (he calls himself Nigerian) has also lost weight. The difference between the two men's weight loss is Joshua lost muscle mass. Losing muscle weakens a man more than losing fat.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 09:15
by littlepug
Shouldn’t be the type of fight that makes weight a factor, Joshua struggled with Ruiz speed, footwork, angles, head movement and variety of punches, he ain’t learned to deal with that overnight, same result for me
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 10:54
by apollo creed
sturm vogel wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 09:00
The Nigerian (he calls himself Nigerian) has also lost weight. The difference between the two men's weight loss is Joshua lost muscle mass. Losing muscle weakens a man more than losing fat.
I agree. It's much dangerous to lose mucle mass than fat but we should take in consideration that Andy is not a big HW. Let's say if Andy would get close to the shape of Dillian Whyte/Joseph Parker in terms of muscle mass & fat% I think he'd look even smaller. Not even a well sized cruiser. So that fatness is an advantage for him.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 11:02
by Onetimeonly
A boxer getting in shape is never a bad idea. Lol at some of you. Either way I think he's getting beat up but good to see him taking it seriously. I expected him to be 300.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 11:09
by margaret thatcher
How exactly does fat add durability??
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 11:19
by apollo creed
littlepug wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 09:15
Shouldn’t be the type of fight that makes weight a factor, Joshua struggled with Ruiz speed, footwork, angles, head movement and variety of punches, he ain’t learned to deal with that overnight, same result for me
Yes but did you see what crazy shots was Andy able to absorb? After Andy got kd and he got up and then the fight was on, AJ landed a massive clean right hand on Andy's jaw and he took it well and kept going. That was pretty impressive.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 11:23
by Onetimeonly
apollo creed wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 11:19
littlepug wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 09:15
Shouldn’t be the type of fight that makes weight a factor, Joshua struggled with Ruiz speed, footwork, angles, head movement and variety of punches, he ain’t learned to deal with that overnight, same result for me
Yes but did you see what crazy shots was Andy able to absorb? After Andy got kd and he got up and then the fight was on, AJ landed a massive clean right hand on Andy's jaw and he took it well and kept going. That was pretty impressive.
And you credit that chin to his bouncing flabby tits?
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 11:26
by apollo creed
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 11:02
A boxer getting in shape is never a bad idea. Lol at some of you. Either way I think he's getting beat up but good to see him taking it seriously. I expected him to be 300.
Andy was in great shape when he fought AJ. His stamina was better than AJ and many other heavy's. You can't fight at that level and be in a poor shape. Now it's just a of case of looking 'thinner' and be lighter.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 11:31
by apollo creed
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 11:23
apollo creed wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 11:19
Yes but did you see what crazy shots was Andy able to absorb? After Andy got kd and he got up and then the fight was on, AJ landed a massive clean right hand on Andy's jaw and he took it well and kept going. That was pretty impressive.
And you credit that chin to his bouncing flabby tits?
"I kind of wanted to be a little heavier because Anthony Joshua's big, I wanted to carry his weight, take the punches well " Andy said.
From what I saw it worked pretty damn well for Andy. He shocked the world.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 11:31
by Onetimeonly
apollo creed wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 11:26
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 11:02
A boxer getting in shape is never a bad idea. Lol at some of you. Either way I think he's getting beat up but good to see him taking it seriously. I expected him to be 300.
Andy was in great shape when he fought AJ. His stamina was better than AJ and many others heavy's. You can't fight at that level and be in a poor shape. Now it's just a of case of looking 'thinner' and be lighter.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 12:22
by littlepug
apollo creed wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 11:19
littlepug wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 09:15
Shouldn’t be the type of fight that makes weight a factor, Joshua struggled with Ruiz speed, footwork, angles, head movement and variety of punches, he ain’t learned to deal with that overnight, same result for me
Yes but did you see what crazy shots was Andy able to absorb? After Andy got kd and he got up and then the fight was on, AJ landed a massive clean right hand on Andy's jaw and he took it well and kept going. That was pretty impressive.
Kinda remember that shot as more of a face shot which is why his head flew back
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 14:19
by apollo creed
littlepug wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 12:22
apollo creed wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 11:19
Yes but did you see what crazy shots was Andy able to absorb? After Andy got kd and he got up and then the fight was on, AJ landed a massive clean right hand on Andy's jaw and he took it well and kept going. That was pretty impressive.
Kinda remember that shot as more of a face shot which is why his head flew back
He was a clean shot landed to the head. Andy took it well.
Re: Andy Ruiz Jr's weight loss ? It will make him stronger and faster?
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 16:20
by gilgamesh
Ruiz will present a lot of the same problems he did the first time. It's up to Joshua to fight a smarter fight mainly. Will be interesting to see how it goes.