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This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 12:26
by Ilya Muromets
...just the way the talking heads announce it on tv. Wrestling and The News too.
For Fight 'Fixer' Charles Farrell, A Life Rigging Records And Engineering Careers
https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2017/04/ ... nks-boxing
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 12:27
by margaret thatcher
Ya, but let me guess, it would be 100 percent real if Ortiz had won right
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 12:35
by Ilya Muromets
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 12:27
Ya, but let me guess, it would be 100 percent real if Ortiz had won right
Speaking of mama's boys...right on cue!
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 12:47
by boxing_rocks
Right, and some boxers dying isn't for real either.
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 12:49
by margaret thatcher
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 12:35
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 12:27
Ya, but let me guess, it would be 100 percent real if Ortiz had won right
Speaking of mama's boys...right on cue!
Lol thought I was on ignore bruh
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 12:58
by Ilya Muromets
I temporarily removed the mama's boys, like you, from ignore in honor of the american holiday.
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 13:17
by Ilya Muromets
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 12:47
Right, and some boxers dying isn't for real either.
How does that even make sense? Everybody dies.
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 14:05
by gilgamesh
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 13:17
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 12:47
Right, and some boxers dying isn't for real either.
How does that even make sense? Everybody dies.
And some jackoffs get kicked out of places before they die.
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 14:30
by Thomastearns
Good article.
Best line - "As Mitch Green’s impersonation of a mummy against Bruce Johnson suggests, managing boxers is not an entirely predictable way to make a living, even if you’re adept at arranging results."
The heavyweight game is still unpredictable but the 'fixing' I suspect is a lot more subtle now. The losers are chosen well and rewarded accordingly, as both Ortiz and Kovalev can testify.
Most of us knew beforehand that Luis Ortiz (or Sergey Kovalev for that matter) had little or no chance of winning.
And so did Deontay Wilder (or Canelo Alvarez for that matter) and his backers.
Good business where almost everyone leaves happy - even the losers.
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 15:51
by tiny_acres
Ilya Muromets wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 12:58
I temporarily removed the mama's boys, like you, from ignore in honor of the american holiday.
May I ask why do you watch boxing if it is such a rigged sport. Surely you could not enjoy it from reading your posts.
Seriously I'm curious to know
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 15:57
by oogiebe
Why would any of you respond to this mental midget at this point?
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 16:09
by 1okstcsb
Boxing is a Sport and Competition FIRST and a Business SECOND, Anyone who puts Money over Morals, Ethics and Principles shold NOT be inviolved in Boxing in any way, meaning Boxers, Managers, Promoters, Trainers etc. Just put 2 fighters in there and let the chips fall where they may, no need to fix outcomes.
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 27 Nov 2019, 09:41
by sturm vogel
For the mama's boys that can't think for themselves:
1) the article is evidence that fights are fixed;
2) the article offers evidence that corroborates those that observe what they see as suspicious behavior or dubious, fixed results;
3) obviously, and it should go without statement, that not all fights are fixed and most outcomes are genuine;
4) it is either by ignorance, or an absurdity, to presume boxing is without corruption;
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 27 Nov 2019, 10:37
by Enlightened-One
Whilst it’s inevitable for there to be a certain amount of corruption that exists in any sport, including boxing, we have to surely scrutinise the credibility of those making bold claims, prior to considering their opinions as “evidence”, rather than simply being educated speculation.
Charles Farrell has previously made lots of bold claims in the past and has subsequently admitted to being proven wrong on numerous occasions, as per the article below:
https://deadspin.com/boxing-is-going-to ... 1823455306
To those that feel compelled to educate “mammas boys”, I think it’s prudent for them to verify the credibility of their own sources, rather than submitting unreliable evidence.
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 27 Nov 2019, 10:53
by tiny_acres
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑27 Nov 2019, 10:37
Whilst it’s inevitable for there to be a certain amount of corruption that exists in any sport, including boxing, we have to surely scrutinise the credibility of those making bold claims, prior to considering their opinions as “evidence”, rather than simply being educated speculation.
Charles Farrell has previously made lots of bold claims in the past and has subsequently admitted to being proven wrong on numerous occasions, as per the article below:
https://deadspin.com/boxing-is-going-to ... 1823455306
To those that feel compelled to educate “mammas boys”, I think it’s prudent for them to verify the credibility of their own sources, rather than submitting unreliable evidence.
Good post EO
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 27 Nov 2019, 11:06
by Tony1244
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 12:27
Ya, but let me guess, it would be 100 percent real if Ortiz had won right
No. It would only be 100% real if only caucasian fighters won.
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 27 Nov 2019, 11:07
by Tony1244
Hi, Mr. Zelenoff.
Re: This is for the mama's boys here who think boxing is all for real
Posted: 27 Nov 2019, 11:09
by bigjack
