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Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 16:03
by oogiebe
So what's next for King Kong? Fight on or retirement. I say he can beat most of the top HW's. What say you?
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 16:04
by margaret thatcher
Keep fighting for sure, not like he's shot or anything.
Who do you think beats him? It wouldn't be too many...
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 16:07
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 16:04
Keep fighting for sure, not like he's shot or anything.
Who do you think beats him? It wouldn't be too many...
I'm still thinking about it. I think Fury is too long and 'cutesy' for him. Don't think he's strong enough to KO Ruiz, especially after seeing him get off the deck and walking through that plowing right from AJ. AJ is a bit of an unknown for me until I see him in the rematch. The rest are all toast, with the possible exception of Usyk who I'm still unconvinced of. I can change my mind though.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 16:15
by joshj909
Loser of AJ/Ruiz, an oldies retirement fight with Povetkin or Pulev, finally getting that Whyte fight. Maybe Usyk? Otherwise, retire for me.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 16:19
by margaret thatcher
I would like to see him fight Whyte, Povetkin, Usyk, or the AJ/Ruiz loser or I guess even maybe the winner if the winner can't get a better fight. He doesn't have much depth to his record as far as interesting opponents go.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 17:17
by 1okstcsb
If I was his Manager, I would give him time to recover from the knockout then fight Dillian Whyte or Fury in June, no point in stay busy fights at his age.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 17:18
by lazboy
I want him to fight a moderate puncher such as Whyte or even Chisora. I’m interested to see how his chin fares.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 17:19
by margaret thatcher
I want him to fight Danny Martz, Raz Cojanu, and Chris Hammer
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 17:59
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 17:19
I want him to fight Danny Martz, Raz Cojanu, and Chris Hammer
You forgot Travis Kaufman!

Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 18:01
by oogiebe
I didn't expect Whyte to be the most likely to be beat by Luis. (at the time of this post).
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 18:10
by margaret thatcher
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 18:01
I didn't expect Whyte to be the most likely to be beat by Luis. (at the time of this post).
Theyz be hating on my boi Dilly
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 18:30
by joshj909
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 18:01
I didn't expect Whyte to be the most likely to be beat by Luis. (at the time of this post).
Has the question changed? I definitely misread it.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 18:33
by oogiebe
joshj909 wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 18:30
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 18:01
I didn't expect Whyte to be the most likely to be beat by Luis. (at the time of this post).
Has the question changed? I definitely misread it.
It's "who does Ortiz likely beat."
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 18:48
by Onetimeonly
He'd beat Joyce.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 19:04
by oogiebe
Joyce isn't on the list of options. But I agree.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 19:09
by margaret thatcher
I wonder what proportion of ppl would favour Luis in these matches
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 19:56
by Pukka Cheese
Carry on as some kind of PBC gatekeeper...
Think Ortiz vs fat Kow makes the most sense.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 19:58
by margaret thatcher
They've been seasoning the pig for Wilder to KO I think. Maybe after that Kow vs the Cuban Methuselah could happen. Ort still shows a lot more than Kow does.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 19:59
by Onetimeonly
He'd definitely beat him
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 20:08
by Impractical Poster
I give Ortiz a good shot at beating any HW. I'd pick him over Ruiz and AJ. Fury would be interesting.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 20:49
by margaret thatcher
Fury would dominate him and exploit his plodding, I think he'd take some wins but also losses fighting the top guys outside Wilder. He is good but he's slow and plods lazily and is how old now? Chris Hammer lasted and gave him a gushing nose and he's been unimpressive in victory as much as he has impressive in winning. I wonder what would've happened if he hadn't turned down the AJ fight Ruiz took
Makes no sense to retire when he's still one of the better guys and I doubt he will. Hopefully we see him in good fights again rather than the utter sh!te that followed the first Wilder scrap
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 21:04
by squiggy
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Nov 2019, 20:49
Fury would dominate him and exploit his plodding,
Fury?!?!? The guy who was unconscious for nine million minutes after Wilder broke his face off? Ortiz would destroy him before he stood off of his stool!
etc.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 21:35
by Contendeh
I’d like a Ortiz vs Knowacki or Joyce fight
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 26 Nov 2019, 22:12
by AntonioMartin
He has money and health..unless his daughter needs the money for treatments and whatnot, retire.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Posted: 27 Nov 2019, 01:56
by KiwiRider
Hang around for a couple more. Put a good nest egg away.
I can only see him beating a couple on that list conclusively, the rest are probably better than 60/40.