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"Full Clenbuterol ruling, relating to Canelo and more Mexican boxers" (Source: World Boxing News):

A recent debate opened up following a ruling set by the World Boxing Council regarding adverse findings from Canelo Alvarez and other Mexican fighters.

Canelo was banned for six months in 2018, initially scuppering a second fight with Gennadiy Golovkin due to Clenbuterol in his system. Outrage from boxing fans meant Canelo had to take his punishment.

But just over a year later, the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) amended the rules clearing the pound for pound king in the process.

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Thoughts?

Did VADA too? And was Canelo specifically named as cleared

So how much clen is someone allowed?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 14:46 Did VADA too? And was Canelo specifically named as cleared

So how much clen is someone allowed?

Any drug testing agency that adheres to WADA protocols, such as their prohibited substance list, will be affected by this change.

VADA isn’t responsible for punishing or clearing fighters. They simply perform the testing and report the results.

The various athletic commissions and governing bodies determine guilt or innocence and also impose punishments where necessary.

The WBC and WADA’s new rules both appear to clear Canelo of any wrongdoing.

I am assuming that VADA will have to abide by the same rules to make the CBP program consist with the WBC’s stance.

The article will explain the rest.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 14:46 Did VADA too? And was Canelo specifically named as cleared

So how much clen is someone allowed?

No one was 'cleared.' The ruling was made to address what they described as a known issue with beef from Mexico and was changed to protect mexican fighters with what they called trace amounts. Still sounds like bullshite to me.

Nevada suspended Canelo previously, I wonder if they will announce they have cleared him after the fact then

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 16:45 Nevada suspended Canelo previously, I wonder if they will announce they have cleared him after the fact then

LOL!

That article also says Browne, Nery, Rey Vargas, Julio Cesar Martinez, and Francisco Vargas are cleared of wrongdoing. All the clen boys getting cleared

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 16:43

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 14:46 Did VADA too? And was Canelo specifically named as cleared

So how much clen is someone allowed?

No one was 'cleared.' The ruling was made to address what they described as a known issue with beef from Mexico and was changed to protect mexican fighters with what they called trace amounts. Still sounds like bullshite to me.

Under the WBC’s and WADA’s new threshold rules surrounding clenbuterol, Canelo would not have been deemed guilty of consuming a banned substance.

We should hold Canelo accountable to today’s standards, which are based on newly-acquired knowledge gained via extensive research.

If Canelo or any athlete tests positive for clenbuterol that falls within the acceptable tolerance today, they will be considered as submitting a clean sample.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 16:49 That article also says Browne, Nery, Rey Vargas, Julio Cesar Martinez, and Francisco Vargas are cleared of wrongdoing. All the clen boys getting cleared

We'll no doubt see more fighters training in Mexico now. Maybe Miller can find a cow with D-bol?

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 16:50

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 16:49 That article also says Browne, Nery, Rey Vargas, Julio Cesar Martinez, and Francisco Vargas are cleared of wrongdoing. All the clen boys getting cleared

We'll no doubt see more fighters training in Mexico now. Maybe Miller can find a cow with D-bol?

WADA’s rules and standards aren’t specific to boxing.

There’s no conspiracy.

Is there going to be a formal clearing ceremony for Canelo? Should probably do it since the drug issue brought bad press to his name.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 16:54 Is there going to be a formal clearing ceremony for Canelo? Should probably do it since the drug issue brought bad press to his name.

And then he'll be given the the "Clen wasn't his fault" belt.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 16:54 Is there going to be a formal clearing ceremony for Canelo? Should probably do it since the drug issue brought bad press to his name.

I doubt it. The NSAC and the WBC have already made statements claiming they didn’t consider Canelo of being a drug cheat.

...is my assumption correct that they changed the rules and then applied them after the fact?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 16:54 Is there going to be a formal clearing ceremony for Canelo? Should probably do it since the drug issue brought bad press to his name.

Can you imagine if Canelo ever signed with PBC? EO would take a 3 hour shower.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 16:54 Is there going to be a formal clearing ceremony for Canelo? Should probably do it since the drug issue brought bad press to his name.

Maybe Canelo should file a lawsuit to recover lost income?
That bad press was very damaging.
After that mess HBO refused to sign him to another contract and got rid of boxing.
Canelo had to settle for a measly 300+ million contract from a little known streaming service.
If all that bad press didn't happen he could have had billions from the heart and soul of boxing.

Ya, I mean since he's been cleared now that's something that must be considered. Same goes for Nery and the other Mexicans (and Browne lol). Maybe they should do some good ol class action

"Clearing" Canelo or anyone busted for Clenbuterol in the past means nothing. Changing the rules after boxers received punishment for breaking the rules is nothing more than trying to help repair their reputations for PEDS use.

What about Erik Morales, who had a 2 year ban for the exact same thing Canelo did. Will he be "cleared"?

The whole article, and thread, are worthless. WTF

Bandog wrote: ↑02 Dec 2019, 20:12 "Clearing" Canelo or anyone busted for Clenbuterol in the past means nothing. Changing the rules after boxers received punishment for breaking the rules is nothing more than trying to help repair their reputations for PEDS use.

What about Erik Morales, who had a 2 year ban for the exact same thing Canelo did. Will he be "cleared"?

The whole article, and thread, are worthless. WTF

You haven't even read the article, so your opinion is "worthless". And that's not me being mean either, since it's clear you haven't read anything about WADA's rule change.

...it looks pretty much like getting a speeding ticket.. and then declaring it null and void one year later because the speed limit has been readjusted..

greg wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 11:17 ...it looks pretty much like getting a speeding ticket.. and then declaring it null and void one year later because the speed limit has been readjusted..

Exactly.

greg wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 11:17 ...it looks pretty much like getting a speeding ticket.. and then declaring it null and void one year later because the speed limit has been readjusted..

Great analogy

Like I said (and I did read the bogus BS) it really means nothing other than trying to restore Canelo's reputation. A 6 month ban for someone that only fights twice a year at the most is NOT a punishment. Are they going to repay him what he lost as far as revenue? No, wait, he didn't lose any.

If the OP wants attention that bad, post articles or opinions that are somewhat meaningful.

So Canelo before the Clenbuterol scandal. Champion of the great canelo weight of 155.

After hes suddenly the champion of 175

Bandog wrote: ↑03 Dec 2019, 22:22 Like I said (and I did read the bogus BS) it really means nothing other than trying to restore Canelo's reputation. A 6 month ban for someone that only fights twice a year at the most is NOT a punishment. Are they going to repay him what he lost as far as revenue? No, wait, he didn't lose any.

If the OP wants attention that bad, post articles or opinions that are somewhat meaningful.

You clearly didn't read the article when you submitted your initial response.

Canelo's suspension resulted in him being inactive for 364 days, due to the cancellation of the GGG bout. Golovkin and Alvarez missed-out on a payday. This is a fact!

Changes to the WADA code in relation to clenbuterol is significant has a huge impact on the sport of boxing, due to so many fighters testing positive for this banned substance.