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AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 13:19
by Controversial
Just on BBC website

Unified world heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua says a health issue left him "tired" and "drained" in the build-up to his June defeat by Andy Ruiz Jr.

Joshua, 30, reclaimed his world titles in Saudi Arabia on Saturday, dominating the Mexican over 12 rounds.

Conspiracy theories had circulated after his initial defeat, one of the biggest shocks in heavyweight history.

"I had some issue with my health which I was going through for a long time," Joshua told the BBC's Mike Costello.

"I didn't know what was wrong with me. I felt so tired and drained and thought it must be down to training.

"In the changing room before the fight I got a bucket of ice and was putting my head in it thinking 'why do I feel so tired?'

"The responsibilities of being world champion are difficult. All that stuff, feeling so tired, dealing with obligations.

"Now I have energy, I haven't missed a session."

The Briton added: "After my check-ups it showed what the problem was and this is what you have to get sorted.

"Even in this camp I had an operation done but as I'd started training in June I had no issues."

Joshua refused to say what the operation was but it is understood the procedure he had in June was linked to the issue diagnosed after his defeat by Ruiz.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 13:23
by Nondescript
Controversial wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 13:19 Just on BBC website

Unified world heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua says a health issue left him "tired" and "drained" in the build-up to his June defeat by Andy Ruiz Jr.

Joshua, 30, reclaimed his world titles in Saudi Arabia on Saturday, dominating the Mexican over 12 rounds.

Conspiracy theories had circulated after his initial defeat, one of the biggest shocks in heavyweight history.

"I had some issue with my health which I was going through for a long time," Joshua told the BBC's Mike Costello.

"I didn't know what was wrong with me. I felt so tired and drained and thought it must be down to training.

"In the changing room before the fight I got a bucket of ice and was putting my head in it thinking 'why do I feel so tired?'

"The responsibilities of being world champion are difficult. All that stuff, feeling so tired, dealing with obligations.

"Now I have energy, I haven't missed a session."

The Briton added: "After my check-ups it showed what the problem was and this is what you have to get sorted.

"Even in this camp I had an operation done but as I'd started training in June I had no issues."

Joshua refused to say what the operation was but it is understood the procedure he had in June was linked to the issue diagnosed after his defeat by Ruiz.
To be honest, he did look odd in the ring before the first fight.

I remember him leaning against the ropes with his gumshield hanging out of his mouth.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 13:59
by SAPFO
Let’s speculate.

What conditions make you extremely tired, and are corrected with an operation?

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:08
by Nightmare Roy
SAPFO wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 13:59 Let’s speculate.

What conditions make you extremely tired, and are corrected with an operation?
Heart valves replaced, but that’s one hell of an op which leaves you bed ridden for 6 months.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:09
by rd350lc
Don't know how to go back on posts and threads , but it was me that started the thread about " something not right about Joshua " or something along those lines . Hope it doesn't go down as "the" reason on the night of the first fight because if he'd of fought that way again this time he'd have lost again , but there were some very odd things in his mannerisms on the ringwalk etc and even looked if he was struggling to breathe properly before the fight started . The way his dad kicked off after the fight was an indication something had gone on as well . He also admitted to the DAZN ring reporter last night something was wrong but wouldn't say what .

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:12
by Nondescript
rd350lc wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:09 Don't know how to go back on posts and threads , but it was me that started the thread about " something not right about Joshua " or something along those lines . Hope it doesn't go down as "the" reason on the night of the first fight because if he'd of fought that way again this time he'd have lost again , but there were some very odd things in his mannerisms on the ringwalk etc and even looked if he was struggling to breathe properly before the fight started . The way his dad kicked off after the fight was an indication something had gone on as well . He also admitted to the DAZN ring reporter last night something was wrong but wouldn't say what .
Be careful. James might call you a conspiracy theorist.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:15
by rd350lc
Nondescript wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:12
rd350lc wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:09 Don't know how to go back on posts and threads , but it was me that started the thread about " something not right about Joshua " or something along those lines . Hope it doesn't go down as "the" reason on the night of the first fight because if he'd of fought that way again this time he'd have lost again , but there were some very odd things in his mannerisms on the ringwalk etc and even looked if he was struggling to breathe properly before the fight started . The way his dad kicked off after the fight was an indication something had gone on as well . He also admitted to the DAZN ring reporter last night something was wrong but wouldn't say what .
Be careful. James might call you a conspiracy theorist.
Is that a compliment ?

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:16
by bigjack
If it was the reason he lost then why did he completely change his style for the rematch.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:21
by rd350lc
bigjack wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:16 If it was the reason he lost then why did he completely change his style for the rematch.
Exactly , if he have fought the same way he'd of lost again, also think Wilders destruction of Breazeale shortly before made it a certainty he needed to look good against Ruiz on his US debut and a points win like last night wouldn't have satisfied most people .

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:28
by ShadrachSimmo
Ah so that explains it. He’s still undefeated then. Can we start a petition?....

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:44
by Controversial
So what medical issue would cause tiredness that requires an operation, any doctors here?

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:50
by the_doctor
Thyroid issue perhaps

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 14:59
by Controversial
the_doctor wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:50 Thyroid issue perhaps
And “the doctor”‘appears lol

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:02
by the_doctor
Controversial wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:59
the_doctor wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:50 Thyroid issue perhaps
And “the doctor”‘appears lol
Should have added the disclaimer - not actually a doctor!

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:04
by Verdi
SAPFO wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 13:59 Let’s speculate.

What conditions make you extremely tired, and are corrected with an operation?
Brain tumour.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:04
by Controversial
the_doctor wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 15:02
Controversial wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:59

And “the doctor”‘appears lol
Should have added the disclaimer - not actually a doctor!
Ha noted, thyroid problem was my first thought as well

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:04
by Ruthless-RKO
rd350lc wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:09 Don't know how to go back on posts and threads , but it was me that started the thread about " something not right about Joshua " or something along those lines . Hope it doesn't go down as "the" reason on the night of the first fight because if he'd of fought that way again this time he'd have lost again , but there were some very odd things in his mannerisms on the ringwalk etc and even looked if he was struggling to breathe properly before the fight started . The way his dad kicked off after the fight was an indication something had gone on as well . He also admitted to the DAZN ring reporter last night something was wrong but wouldn't say what .
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=231034&hilit=Joshua

You’re welcome. :TU:

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:04
by Verdi
He'll tell us in his book.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:09
by Controversial
Nondescript wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 13:23

To be honest, he did look odd in the ring before the first fight.

I remember him leaning against the ropes with his gumshield hanging out of his mouth.
Yeah it was discussed to death wasn't it but assuming this health thing is true it might explain why he was knackered after 3 rounds. Let's face it the punch done the damage though so tiredness aside thats what lost him the fight.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:13
by Nondescript
Severe anaemia perhaps. He'd need blood transfusions with that though.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:16
by rd350lc
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 15:04
rd350lc wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 14:09 Don't know how to go back on posts and threads , but it was me that started the thread about " something not right about Joshua " or something along those lines . Hope it doesn't go down as "the" reason on the night of the first fight because if he'd of fought that way again this time he'd have lost again , but there were some very odd things in his mannerisms on the ringwalk etc and even looked if he was struggling to breathe properly before the fight started . The way his dad kicked off after the fight was an indication something had gone on as well . He also admitted to the DAZN ring reporter last night something was wrong but wouldn't say what .
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=231034&hilit=Joshua

You’re welcome. :TU:
Ta mate :TU:

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:18
by Controversial
It might explain why AJ seemed to take the defeat so well, I guess if he knew there was a reason behind his lacklustre display it would make a loss easier to justify in his own head.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:19
by rd350lc
Verdi wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 15:04 He'll tell us in his book.
Yes , he did say that in the dazn interview , not one to miss a commercial opportunity is he ! :shame:

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:22
by rd350lc
Controversial wrote: 08 Dec 2019, 15:18 It might explain why AJ seemed to take the defeat so well, I guess if he knew there was a reason behind his lacklustre display it would make a loss easier to justify in his own head.
That's what I couldn't believe , it was like he wasn't that bothered about losing ,most bizzare behaviour , most would be crestfallen and devastated . All added up to a strange night in New York.

Re: AJ claims health issue before first Ruiz fight

Posted: 08 Dec 2019, 15:22
by forcefraser
Thyroid