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130, 135, 140 What’s the huge difference?

Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 17:12
by THESURESHOT
The title of this thread may be a bit misleading so let me explain more. Gervonta Davis is a good example. He fought at 130 for a long time then they make a big deal out of moving up to 135 And can he handle the difference, the guys are bigger, etc....but he goes in at 146 Which is probably water weight or maybe he ate a couple steaks and potatoes that night before...

So to get back to my point what’s the big difference at 135 when he is fighting at 146?

Re: 130, 135, 140 What’s the huge difference?

Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 17:15
by margaret thatcher
Ya, but the fight night weights for the other guys in the divisions will generally go up too with each division. The guys at 140 are probably in the 150s and maybe some even nearing 160

Though I do think a lot of people make too much of a few pounds here and there. And it's true, you'll get guys at one weight who are in reality no naturally smaller than guys like 2 or 3 divisions up, they just play the weight game better or more extreme.

Re: 130, 135, 140 What’s the huge difference?

Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 18:47
by Cent0089
One weight class is not a big difference, but two weightclass can be big deal. COmpare Leo Santa Cruz from 130 with Josh Taylor from 140

Re: 130, 135, 140 What’s the huge difference?

Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 19:13
by gregregegg
Tank is young so is likely moving up through the weights as his body fills in and dosent allow home to make weight. Doing that means he won't be the smaller man, but he will have to adjust from being fighting smaller men.
That's in contrast to someone like Loma who is basically still about the size of a 126 fighter, so each time he moves up he becomes the smaller man and has to adjust his style to that.

Re: 130, 135, 140 What’s the huge difference?

Posted: 31 Dec 2019, 22:49
by Impractical Poster
The difference in boxing weight classes is relatively small. I find it amusing when a big deal is made out of a 5 pound difference in boxing when you have certain fighters in MMA fighting anywhere from 145 to 170 lbs. Weight also plays much more of a role in mma than it does in boxing.

Re: 130, 135, 140 What’s the huge difference?

Posted: 01 Jan 2020, 00:26
by gregregegg
Impractical Poster wrote: 31 Dec 2019, 22:49 The difference in boxing weight classes is relatively small. I find it amusing when a big deal is made out of a 5 pound difference in boxing when you have certain fighters in MMA fighting anywhere from 145 to 170 lbs. Weight also plays much more of a role in mma than it does in boxing.
Yea most boxing weight classes are an ok size for me. 115,118,122,126 is probly a bit condensed. But the big miss for boxing is 175-200. i dont know how that can be excusable. why has no one made a 185 or 187 class. If your fight weight is about 195, then you either gotta kill yourself to make 175 or fight guys 15-25 pounds heavier.

Re: 130, 135, 140 What’s the huge difference?

Posted: 01 Jan 2020, 02:18
by Impractical Poster
gregregegg wrote: 01 Jan 2020, 00:26
Impractical Poster wrote: 31 Dec 2019, 22:49 The difference in boxing weight classes is relatively small. I find it amusing when a big deal is made out of a 5 pound difference in boxing when you have certain fighters in MMA fighting anywhere from 145 to 170 lbs. Weight also plays much more of a role in mma than it does in boxing.
Yea most boxing weight classes are an ok size for me. 115,118,122,126 is probly a bit condensed. But the big miss for boxing is 175-200. i dont know how that can be excusable. why has no one made a 185 or 187 class. If your fight weight is about 195, then you either gotta kill yourself to make 175 or fight guys 15-25 pounds heavier.
I hear ya. Doesn't really make sense. I wouldn't mind seeing boxing take the mma model for weight classes. Also, I think it would be interesting if boxing were to adopt their 5 minute round system as well. I think longer rounds with a shorter overall fight time would allow for more action fights. As it is it seems that these fighters conserve their energy a lot during a fight. It's built in to their game plan. With shorter fights they could let go a bit more. Just my take. But I think it would help the sport.

Re: 130, 135, 140 What’s the huge difference?

Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 13:12
by Syntax Error
gregregegg wrote: 01 Jan 2020, 00:26
Impractical Poster wrote: 31 Dec 2019, 22:49 The difference in boxing weight classes is relatively small. I find it amusing when a big deal is made out of a 5 pound difference in boxing when you have certain fighters in MMA fighting anywhere from 145 to 170 lbs. Weight also plays much more of a role in mma than it does in boxing.
Yea most boxing weight classes are an ok size for me. 115,118,122,126 is probly a bit condensed. But the big miss for boxing is 175-200. i dont know how that can be excusable. why has no one made a 185 or 187 class. If your fight weight is about 195, then you either gotta kill yourself to make 175 or fight guys 15-25 pounds heavier.
:clap: :clap: :bow:

On the money.

I'm not normally one for creating more weight classes, but in this instance, like you have said, it is very much warranted, especially in the day and age as we're so much larger as a species.

Re: 130, 135, 140 What’s the huge difference?

Posted: 05 Jan 2020, 13:29
by boxing_rocks
Syntax Error wrote: 05 Jan 2020, 13:12
gregregegg wrote: 01 Jan 2020, 00:26

Yea most boxing weight classes are an ok size for me. 115,118,122,126 is probly a bit condensed. But the big miss for boxing is 175-200. i dont know how that can be excusable. why has no one made a 185 or 187 class. If your fight weight is about 195, then you either gotta kill yourself to make 175 or fight guys 15-25 pounds heavier.
:clap: :clap: :bow:

On the money.

I'm not normally one for creating more weight classes, but in this instance, like you have said, it is very much warranted, especially in the day and age as we're so much larger as a species.
Yep, 8 pounds between 160 and 168, only 7 pounds between 168 and 175, but 25 between 175 and 200. No logic whatsoever.