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I used to be very high on tony yoka potential.
He will turn 28 age in April, and people just know him because ge was given Olympic gold medal.

I follow his facebook page closely, he seems living the joy life of normal person and doesn't give high important to his boxing career. I think he needs to move to USA and be under control of american training camp.

I think no one will take him serious if he don't bring hinself into picture before turning age 30, because of marketing reasons. Sorry for my poor english.

D: None of the above.

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:42 D: None of the above.

Really? You think that little of him? You follow the heavies far more than I do but I don't know that I'd pick 11 of those slobs to beat him now.

For the moment he have been looking solid, but not special, and his pro-career is stagnant. He's not very active and he didn't have challeging fights. When you're staying at the single level, you'll eventually decline. There're guys out there, who seem to be far more special. Right now he's not going to be a top-3 or top-5 fighter. Around top-10 seems more real.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:50

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:42 D: None of the above.

Really? You think that little of him? You follow the heavies far more than I do but I don't know that I'd pick 11 of those slobs to beat him now.

Mostly because of his lack of activity which I assume is due to poor management and promotion. Top 11? Maybe, but my response was more of a statement of his current development, or lack thereof. He has fallen behind, much like Dychko.

He would still beat Ruiz Jr

He needs a real test, that is it.

Coco wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:06 He would still beat Ruiz Jr

LOL! I don't think he is quite there yet.

Paci wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:06 He needs a real test, that is it.

He needs to fight more than twice per year, and yes, step up the competition.

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:00

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:50

Really? You think that little of him? You follow the heavies far more than I do but I don't know that I'd pick 11 of those slobs to beat him now.

Mostly because of his lack of activity which I assume is due to poor management and promotion. Top 11? Maybe, but my response was more of a statement of his current development, or lack thereof. He has fallen behind, much like Dychko.

Didn't he get a ped suspension? Anyway, I was just asking. Top 11 at heavy is pretty slim.

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:07

Coco wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:06 He would still beat Ruiz Jr

LOL! I don't think he is quite there yet.

He is! Ruiz won't fight for years

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:08

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:00
Mostly because of his lack of activity which I assume is due to poor management and promotion. Top 11? Maybe, but my response was more of a statement of his current development, or lack thereof. He has fallen behind, much like Dychko.

Didn't he get a ped suspension? Anyway, I was just asking. Top 11 at heavy is pretty slim.

I think he got the suspension for missing a test, not actually failing one.

Regarding top 11, I consider those 'other' prospects who are rising up the rankings as well. Dubs; Hrg; Makhmudov; Efe; Vianello; et al.

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:08

Paci wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:06 He needs a real test, that is it.

He needs to fight more than twice per year, and yes, step up the competition.

Yeah, he better and not just go being a new Brian Nielsen and being sort of a contender and fighting leftovers from the 80s in his hometown.

Paci wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:10

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:08

He needs to fight more than twice per year, and yes, step up the competition.

Yeah, he better and not just go a new Brian Nielsen and being sort of a contender and fighting leftovers from the 80s in his hometown.

LOL! Yeah! Talk about a pumped up record.

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:12

Paci wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:10

Yeah, he better and not just go a new Brian Nielsen and being sort of a contender and fighting leftovers from the 80s in his hometown.

LOL! Yeah! Talk about a pumped up record.

At least Yoka is fighting guys who at least have a pulse. But, yeah lets hope he gets some more fights next year. So far, it is looking good, accept for having problems with his local commission or whatever. But, I would love a rematch between him and Joyce for the European strap or something.

Lets hope that they make more moves and get him in deepwaters the coming year. He got the goods for going in to the top 10. But, lets see what happens.

Paci wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:27

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:12
LOL! Yeah! Talk about a pumped up record.

At least Yoka is fighting guys who at least have a pulse. But, yeah lets hope he gets some more fights next year. So far, it is looking good, accept for having problems with his local commission or whatever. But, I would love a rematch between him and Joyce for the European strap or something.

Lets hope that they make more moves and get him in deepwaters the coming year. He got the goods for going in to the top 10. But, lets see what happens.

Yoka doesn't want to fight Joy joyce, he claims have beaten joyce 3 times in amateur.

Seems to me Yoka is so full of himself having won gold medal in Olympic. Anyhow is he ranked top 3 HW in France as of today, behind both carlos Takam and Johann Duhapas

Boxtune wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:38

Paci wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:27

At least Yoka is fighting guys who at least have a pulse. But, yeah lets hope he gets some more fights next year. So far, it is looking good, accept for having problems with his local commission or whatever. But, I would love a rematch between him and Joyce for the European strap or something.

Lets hope that they make more moves and get him in deepwaters the coming year. He got the goods for going in to the top 10. But, lets see what happens.

Yoka doesn't want to fight Joy joyce, he claims have beaten joyce 3 times in amateur.

Seems to me Yoka is so full of himself having won gold medal in Olympic. Anyhow is he ranked top 3 HW in France as of today, behind both carlos Takam and Johann Duhapas

I don't care. Joyce has like 10 fights and has gotten futher then Yoka at this time. And saw that they have fought 3 times and it is 2-1 for Yoka.

So he should fight them or fight a real gatekeeper for a crack at the top 10. Lets see what Yoka does the coming year. Im going with a soild rating in TRBR or The Ring this coming year.

Or he should just fight Chisora next time out.

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sturm vogel wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 15:02 The question has too many possible answers to offer a reply. Ask an imprecise question and you will get an imprecise answer.

I set reply option to 1 choice only .

Boxtune wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 15:32

sturm vogel wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 15:02 The question has too many possible answers to offer a reply. Ask an imprecise question and you will get an imprecise answer.

I set reply option to 1 choice only .

Nothing wrong with this thread, BT.

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:00

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 13:50

Really? You think that little of him? You follow the heavies far more than I do but I don't know that I'd pick 11 of those slobs to beat him now.

Mostly because of his lack of activity which I assume is due to poor management and promotion. Top 11? Maybe, but my response was more of a statement of his current development, or lack thereof. He has fallen behind, much like Dychko.

Nailed it right there Oggie
Yoka does not have the money behind him to get the better opponents, and outside his home, he doesn't have the fan base to garner that money on his own. How he would deal with the better ones is up for grabs really. I would like to think he has the potential to beat the likes of Whyte, Joyce, Pulev - the slower guys- and get eaten for breakfast by the likes of Usyk, Parker, Kownacki, AJ/Fury/Wilder

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:00

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 14:00
Mostly because of his lack of activity which I assume is due to poor management and promotion. Top 11? Maybe, but my response was more of a statement of his current development, or lack thereof. He has fallen behind, much like Dychko.

Nailed it right there Oggie
Yoka does not have the money behind him to get the better opponents, and outside his home, he doesn't have the fan base to garner that money on his own. How he would deal with the better ones is up for grabs really. I would like to think he has the potential to beat the likes of Whyte, Joyce, Pulev - the slower guys- and get eaten for breakfast by the likes of Usyk, Parker, Kownacki, AJ/Fury/Wilder

Thanks! I get lucky now and then. Yoka's best move for 2020 is moving to a big name promoter. He's limited though.

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:05

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:00

Nailed it right there Oggie
Yoka does not have the money behind him to get the better opponents, and outside his home, he doesn't have the fan base to garner that money on his own. How he would deal with the better ones is up for grabs really. I would like to think he has the potential to beat the likes of Whyte, Joyce, Pulev - the slower guys- and get eaten for breakfast by the likes of Usyk, Parker, Kownacki, AJ/Fury/Wilder

Thanks! I get lucky now and then. Yoka's best move for 2020 is moving to a big name promoter. He's limited though.

Yoka is not limited, but has been kept limited and he seems to be happy with what he achieved already because of low expectation from people around him.

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:05

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:00

Nailed it right there Oggie
Yoka does not have the money behind him to get the better opponents, and outside his home, he doesn't have the fan base to garner that money on his own. How he would deal with the better ones is up for grabs really. I would like to think he has the potential to beat the likes of Whyte, Joyce, Pulev - the slower guys- and get eaten for breakfast by the likes of Usyk, Parker, Kownacki, AJ/Fury/Wilder

Thanks! I get lucky now and then. Yoka's best move for 2020 is moving to a big name promoter. He's limited though.

I think Matchroom is best for him, they have the right kind of step-up guys in their stable. Yoka is the type of guy who is probably going to win fans by his fights. Personality wise, well... He just dosent have a lot of charisma.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:15

oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Jan 2020, 16:05
Thanks! I get lucky now and then. Yoka's best move for 2020 is moving to a big name promoter. He's limited though.

I think Matchroom is best for him, they have the right kind of step-up guys in their stable. Yoka is the type of guy who is probably going to win fans by his fights. Personality wise, well... He just dosent have a lot of charisma.

Agreed. matchroom would be a great fit for him.