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Can somebody please translate from Spences into English.

The beginning:









Crawford is now a unified WBO + Twitter champion.

Awaiting Mr. PBC! PBC!

Is this what we've got to look forward to from now on; two bitches jabbering away on social media instead of fighting each other in the ring?

Im not a fan of these boxing trash talks, but if it will help break PBC/Top rank barrier and fight will happen just bring it on boys, this can be biggest rivalry since Alvarez/Golovkin

I laugh at this. Keyboard warriors???

If they both want to fight they can make it happen this year. Crawford is right that they are the bosses

I read all of Spence’s posts in his voice lmfao.

TC ain’t wrong in what he’s saying.

What barrier?

Spence would obviously rather just have in house fights, which he can. Tonnes of boxers to choose from.

Well Wilder could have carried on having plenty too, but now PBC and TR have worked together for that fight.

They obviously don't find their English embarrassing at all, otherwise they would spend their down time going to community college or using all that money to hire a tutor.
To me, it reads like a couple of 10 year olds.
"Lookie ma! I'm twittering at a 10 year old level!"

It's twitter not an english class. I guarantee your favorite boxer has had a misspelling of an tweet or social media post.

Crawford wanted to fight Khan instead of Danny Garcia, who would given him a fight. He's desperate now that his legitimacy as a top welter is fading because of competition. The Porter scenario made him look bad too.

No one even knows what condition Spence is really in now to fight. Crawford is thinking about that too I'm sure.

world ranked wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 18:36 It's twitter not an english class. I guarantee your favorite boxer has had a misspelling of an tweet or social media post.

Well, tbf, there is a difference between a misspelling and a language butchery that leaves you boarding on unintelligible

This is one of the rare times i want to wait on a fight. not long, just would like to see Spence recover fully, then tune up fight then fight crawford. I just think if they were to fight next and Crawford won, he wouldn't get full credit. Spence had a war then a car crash. don't think he should be in the ring with Crawford till at least late 2020.

Crawford is the biggest b;__h of all. He talked a lot of trash, but they finaly came up with a top level name in porter, than all of the sudden tc sounded "thats not a fight i am looking for right now".

Nobody od these boxers are their own bosses except boxers like Oscar or Klitschko who owned promotional companys. Even floyd wasnt his own boss. There was always haymon. Also floyd never wanted no part of pac, the only reason he than fought pac was because the billionere showtime bos told him to get his sh;t together and fight pac.

Spence can be lucky he still alive and right now he is far from being 100 %.
Crawford shouldnt focuse on spence, but the other top ww who are healthy and ready, like thurman, porter.

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 21:36 This is one of the rare times i want to wait on a fight. not long, just would like to see Spence recover fully, then tune up fight then fight crawford. I just think if they were to fight next and Crawford won, he wouldn't get full credit. Spence had a war then a car crash. don't think he should be in the ring with Crawford till at least late 2020.

I agree with this.

No-one knows how or even if Spence will recover fully, so it's best to wait and see.

I think Crawford is panicking a bit, because he thought the mountain would come to him, but the mountain ain't moving and he is worrying about his legacy.

There are plenty of other big dogs for him to chase in the meantime if he is really serious about being THE man at 147.

Having social media spats like a pre pubescent teenager is unbecoming of him.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 02:03 Crawford is the biggest b;__h of all. He talked a lot of trash, but they finaly came up with a top level name in porter, than all of the sudden tc sounded "thats not a fight i am looking for right now".

Nobody od these boxers are their own bosses except boxers like Oscar or Klitschko who owned promotional companys. Even floyd wasnt his own boss. There was always haymon. Also floyd never wanted no part of pac, the only reason he than fought pac was because the billionere showtime bos told him to get his sh;t together and fight pac.

Spence can be lucky he still alive and right now he is far from being 100 %.
Crawford shouldnt focuse on spence, but the other top ww who are healthy and ready, like thurman, porter.

I agree with everything you've said. Also, if beating the likes of Spence Jr., Pacquiao, Thurman, Porter & Garcia were high on Terence Crawford’s list of priorities, he wouldn’t have recently extended his contract with Bob Arum’s Top Rank.

Bud must have surely known that not signing with the PBC would limit his opportunities. The American obviously preferred to cash in Top Rank/ESPN’s cheques rather than engage in legacy bouts.

We have already seen YouTube videos of Crawford and Spence Jr. trash talking face-to-face more than a year ago, which would have only been a few weeks or months after Terence chose to renew his contract with Top Rank. And nothing came of it, neither Top Rank nor the PBC attempted to make the bout back then.

So this latest Twitter exchange just seems to be a desperate publicity stunt where Crawford is attempting to raise his own profile using Spence Jr.

Regardless, Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. won’t be fighting each other during 2020.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 04:45

RonnyJ wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 02:03 Crawford is the biggest b;__h of all. He talked a lot of trash, but they finaly came up with a top level name in porter, than all of the sudden tc sounded "thats not a fight i am looking for right now".

Nobody od these boxers are their own bosses except boxers like Oscar or Klitschko who owned promotional companys. Even floyd wasnt his own boss. There was always haymon. Also floyd never wanted no part of pac, the only reason he than fought pac was because the billionere showtime bos told him to get his sh;t together and fight pac.

Spence can be lucky he still alive and right now he is far from being 100 %.
Crawford shouldnt focuse on spence, but the other top ww who are healthy and ready, like thurman, porter.

I agree with everything you've said. Also, if beating the likes of Spence Jr., Pacquiao, Thurman, Porter & Garcia were high on Terence Crawford’s list of priorities, he wouldn’t have recently extended his contract with Bob Arum’s Top Rank.

Bud must have surely known that not signing with the PBC would limit his opportunities. The American obviously preferred to cash in Top Rank/ESPN’s cheques rather than engage in legacy bouts.

We have already seen YouTube videos of Crawford and Spence Jr. trash talking face-to-face more than a year ago, which would have only been a few weeks or months after Terence chose to renew his contract with Top Rank. And nothing came of it, neither Top Rank nor the PBC attempted to make the bout back then.

So this latest Twitter exchange just seems to be a desperate publicity stunt where Crawford is attempting to raise his own profile using Spence Jr.

Regardless, Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. won’t be fighting each other during 2020.

exactly. it made no sense tc staying with bob. since the big money fights are with haymon, pac or spence.

crawford is desperate indeed. he may be p4p #2 on some lists, but dude is making no money. damn, even danny garcia makes more cash than him. crawford has no fan base because of his boring boxing style. he waits, he does not much and when his opponents are exhausted he tkos them. but he is far from being an exciting boxer. the last fight was only exciting because the east euro guy knocked him down and won a lot of rounds and tc had to do something dramatic otherwise he was close to losing the bout. but it shouldnt be this way, when you box inferior opponents, than you tko them all and not just every now and than. thats how pac, thats how GGG and how kovalev and all the other superstars except floyd, ward used to do it. tc just desperate for cash.

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 19:10 Crawford wanted to fight Khan instead of Danny Garcia, who would given him a fight. He's desperate now that his legitimacy as a top welter is fading because of competition. The Porter scenario made him look bad too.

No one even knows what condition Spence is really in now to fight. Crawford is thinking about that too I'm sure.

He didn’t want to fight Khan.

They offered D Garcia $3m plus PPV upside, His highest purse. Danny claimed his Dad Angel didn’t tell him the offer or some other bullshit or whatever.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 09:55

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 19:10 Crawford wanted to fight Khan instead of Danny Garcia, who would given him a fight. He's desperate now that his legitimacy as a top welter is fading because of competition. The Porter scenario made him look bad too.

No one even knows what condition Spence is really in now to fight. Crawford is thinking about that too I'm sure.

He didn’t want to fight Khan.

They offered D Garcia $3m plus PPV upside, His highest purse. Danny claimed his Dad Angel didn’t tell him the offer or some other bullshit or whatever.

Angel Garcia is Danny Garcia’s trainer. Al Haymon is Danny Garcia’s manager.

Top Rank’s Carl Moretti understands the distinction between both roles, but he alleges he made the offer to Angel, but never received a response.

I can’t find any evidence of Angel Garcia corroborating Carl Moretti’s claims. Danny Garcia also denies receiving the offer. Terence Crawford, by his own admission, claims that he doesn’t really know the precise details of what had occurred.

Last month Danny Garcia stated that if there’s enough money in it for him, then make him an offer. He said there’s more to do with things than whatever fighters want, there’s politics involved. The fighters can say whatever they want to the media, but it’s what’s going on behind the scenes that matters.

During the same interview last month, he claims that the media told him Top Rank allegedly offered $3m to face Terence Crawford, which was less than the $5m purse that Amir Khan earned during the same time period, even though the American had KO’d the Brit. Both guys (Khan and Garcia) are aligned with Al Haymon.

Coincidentally, Danny Garcia claims that he received a $3m payday for the Rod Salka fight.

On a separate note, if Terence Crawford genuinely didn’t want to face Amir Khan, but he did anyway, then why did he post the following Tweet?


If Top Rank really wanted the Crawford-Garcia fight, then why did they submit the lowball offer? Why didn’t they offer the same purse they offered Amir Khan, considering the Brit had previously been KO’d by Garcia and had never won a world title at 147lbs? The Crawford-Khan PPV event only achieved 150K views, so it’s not as if the Brit was considered a much bigger name on US soil than an American like Danny.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:27

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 09:55

He didn’t want to fight Khan.

They offered D Garcia $3m plus PPV upside, His highest purse. Danny claimed his Dad Angel didn’t tell him the offer or some other bullshit or whatever.

Angel Garcia is Danny Garcia’s trainer. Al Haymon is Danny Garcia’s manager.

Top Rank’s Carl Moretti understands the distinction between both roles, but he alleges he made the offer to Angel, but never received a response.

I can’t find any evidence of Angel Garcia corroborating Carl Moretti’s claims. Danny Garcia also denies receiving the offer. Terence Crawford, by his own admission, claims that he doesn’t really know the precise details of what had occurred.

Last month Danny Garcia stated that if there’s enough money in it for him, then make him an offer. He said there’s more to do with things than whatever fighters want, there’s politics involved. The fighters can say whatever they want to the media, but it’s what’s going on behind the scenes that matters.

During the same interview last month, he claims that the media told him Top Rank allegedly offered $3m to face Terence Crawford, which was less than the $5m purse that Amir Khan earned during the same time period, even though the American had KO’d the Brit. Both guys (Khan and Garcia) are aligned with Al Haymon.

Coincidentally, Danny Garcia claims that he received a $3m payday for the Rod Salka fight.

On a separate note, if Terence Crawford genuinely didn’t want to face Amir Khan, but he did anyway, then why did he post the following Tweet?


If Top Rank really wanted the Crawford-Garcia fight, then why did they submit the lowball offer? Why didn’t they offer the same purse they offered Amir Khan, considering the Brit had previously been KO’d by Garcia and had never won a world title at 147lbs? The Crawford-Khan PPV event only achieved 150K views, so it’s not as if the Brit was considered a much bigger name on US soil than an American like Danny.

It's not like Danny Garcia is this big name, PPV fighter. I'll even argue Khan is bigger name and can sell more tickets than Garcia.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:27
Angel Garcia is Danny Garcia’s trainer. Al Haymon is Danny Garcia’s manager.

Top Rank’s Carl Moretti understands the distinction between both roles, but he alleges he made the offer to Angel, but never received a response.

I can’t find any evidence of Angel Garcia corroborating Carl Moretti’s claims. Danny Garcia also denies receiving the offer. Terence Crawford, by his own admission, claims that he doesn’t really know the precise details of what had occurred.

Last month Danny Garcia stated that if there’s enough money in it for him, then make him an offer. He said there’s more to do with things than whatever fighters want, there’s politics involved. The fighters can say whatever they want to the media, but it’s what’s going on behind the scenes that matters.

During the same interview last month, he claims that the media told him Top Rank allegedly offered $3m to face Terence Crawford, which was less than the $5m purse that Amir Khan earned during the same time period, even though the American had KO’d the Brit. Both guys (Khan and Garcia) are aligned with Al Haymon.

Coincidentally, Danny Garcia claims that he received a $3m payday for the Rod Salka fight.

On a separate note, if Terence Crawford genuinely didn’t want to face Amir Khan, but he did anyway, then why did he post the following Tweet?


If Top Rank really wanted the Crawford-Garcia fight, then why did they submit the lowball offer? Why didn’t they offer the same purse they offered Amir Khan, considering the Brit had previously been KO’d by Garcia and had never won a world title at 147lbs? The Crawford-Khan PPV event only achieved 150K views, so it’s not as if the Brit was considered a much bigger name on US soil than an American like Danny.

It's not like Danny Garcia is this big name, PPV fighter. I'll even argue Khan is bigger name and can sell more tickets than Garcia.

Danny Garcia is an American. Danny Garcia beat Amir Khan. Danny Garcia is a former world titleholder at 147lbs. Terence Crawford said he didn't want the Amir Khan fight.

Amir Khan might be a slightly bigger name globally than Danny Garcia, but the difference in popularity on US soil will only be trivial. It certainly doesn't explain the discrepancy in the size of the offers Top Rank proposed.

I'm also confused about the reason why Top Rank submitted the offer to Danny Garcia's trainer rather than manager.

Also, it doesn't explain the reason why Crawford faced Khan in the first place, if Terence's Tweet about the roles of managers/advisors are true.

There's an awful lot that doesn't add up.

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:27
Angel Garcia is Danny Garcia’s trainer. Al Haymon is Danny Garcia’s manager.

Top Rank’s Carl Moretti understands the distinction between both roles, but he alleges he made the offer to Angel, but never received a response.

I can’t find any evidence of Angel Garcia corroborating Carl Moretti’s claims. Danny Garcia also denies receiving the offer. Terence Crawford, by his own admission, claims that he doesn’t really know the precise details of what had occurred.

Last month Danny Garcia stated that if there’s enough money in it for him, then make him an offer. He said there’s more to do with things than whatever fighters want, there’s politics involved. The fighters can say whatever they want to the media, but it’s what’s going on behind the scenes that matters.

During the same interview last month, he claims that the media told him Top Rank allegedly offered $3m to face Terence Crawford, which was less than the $5m purse that Amir Khan earned during the same time period, even though the American had KO’d the Brit. Both guys (Khan and Garcia) are aligned with Al Haymon.

Coincidentally, Danny Garcia claims that he received a $3m payday for the Rod Salka fight.

On a separate note, if Terence Crawford genuinely didn’t want to face Amir Khan, but he did anyway, then why did he post the following Tweet?


If Top Rank really wanted the Crawford-Garcia fight, then why did they submit the lowball offer? Why didn’t they offer the same purse they offered Amir Khan, considering the Brit had previously been KO’d by Garcia and had never won a world title at 147lbs? The Crawford-Khan PPV event only achieved 150K views, so it’s not as if the Brit was considered a much bigger name on US soil than an American like Danny.

It's not like Danny Garcia is this big name, PPV fighter. I'll even argue Khan is bigger name and can sell more tickets than Garcia.

Yeh, plus Khan was offered that purse after not hearing back from Garcia.

Garcia made $700k against Salka also, not $3m..

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:54

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:46

It's not like Danny Garcia is this big name, PPV fighter. I'll even argue Khan is bigger name and can sell more tickets than Garcia.

Danny Garcia is an American. Danny Garcia beat Amir Khan. Danny Garcia is a former world titleholder at 147lbs. Terence Crawford said he didn't want the Amir Khan fight.

Amir Khan might be a slightly bigger name globally than Danny Garcia, but the difference in popularity on US soil will only be trivial. It certainly doesn't explain the discrepancy in the size of the offers Top Rank proposed.

I'm also confused about the reason why Top Rank submitted the offer to Danny Garcia's trainer rather than manager.

Also, it doesn't explain the reason why Crawford faced Khan in the first place, if Terence's Tweet about the roles of managers/advisors are true.

There's an awful lot that doesn't add up.

All that is true.

But that still doesn't change the fact that Khan is a bigger draw even in American than Danny Garcia. He sells way more tickets.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:55

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:46

It's not like Danny Garcia is this big name, PPV fighter. I'll even argue Khan is bigger name and can sell more tickets than Garcia.

Yeh, plus Khan was offered that purse after not hearing back from Garcia.

Garcia made $700k against Salka also, not $3m..

See for yourself:

Like I said before, there’s a lot of things that don’t quite add up in regards to Top Rank’s alleged offer to Angel Garcia.

gregregegg wrote: ↑06 Jan 2020, 21:36 This is one of the rare times i want to wait on a fight. not long, just would like to see Spence recover fully, then tune up fight then fight crawford. I just think if they were to fight next and Crawford won, he wouldn't get full credit. Spence had a war then a car crash. don't think he should be in the ring with Crawford till at least late 2020.

I agree. I wouldn't feel comfortable watching Spence fight Crawford after losing a bunch of teeth and a decent number of brain cells in that car wreck.

It actually makes me a little uncomfortable that all of a sudden Crawford is really pushing for the fight just after this has happened.

It's cynical.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:54

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑07 Jan 2020, 10:46

It's not like Danny Garcia is this big name, PPV fighter. I'll even argue Khan is bigger name and can sell more tickets than Garcia.

I'm also confused about the reason why Top Rank submitted the offer to Danny Garcia's trainer rather than manager.

Because the rest of us know fine well that in practice Haymon is his promoter and his dad is his manager as well as his trainer.

It's easy when you take the pbc tinted specs off