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Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑14 Jan 2020, 11:50 Thought this might be interesting. I ranked all the lineal heavyweight champions. Not really that interested in discussing Ali and Louis for the billionth time, but rather looking at some of the other guys.
For me their were clusters where several guys were roughly even. Rating #3-13 is hard. From about #16 to about #23 is as well. Actually rating the bottom part may be be even more interesting.

Obviously, all of these guys had pluses and minuses. Let me know what you think.
Anyway, here it is:

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Foreman
4. Johnson
5. Frazier
6. Holmes
7. Holyfield
8. Lewis
9. Marciano
10. Dempsey
11. Liston
12. Tyson
13. Jeffries
14. Bowe
15. Tunney
16. Patterson
17. Charles
18. Walcott
19. Schmeling
20. Baer
21. Sharkey
22. Fitzsimmons
23. Corbett
24. Douglas
25. W. Klitschko
26. M. Spinks
27. Moorer
28. Fury
29. Johansson
30. Carnera
31. Willard
32. Braddock
33. Rahman
34. Briggs
35. Burns
36. L. Spinks
37. Hart

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jan 2020, 14:00 David Bey, Mike White, Jesse Ferguson, a draw with Tangsted. Is that such a high level? Knocked out by Tucker as well, who was good but not really stand out good. Savarese obviously years after his prime tbf. Holyfield is really the only top fighter that he lost to and of course he was destroyed

I would say actually, why not Rahman ahead of Wlad as well, rather than 8 spots below? A bigger single win than anything Wlad has and over a fighter comparable to and possibly better than Mike Tyson. He also beat a guy who stopped Wlad! And he battered a guy who should have gotten the decision over Brewster right after Brewster beat Wlad. Should really have a win over Tua as well. Their h2h was when Rock was well finished so it's not that relevant.

Seems like a shoe in using that same logic?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jan 2020, 14:38 Lol oh ya, totally forget that he beat Purrity too.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jan 2020, 14:00 David Bey, Mike White, Jesse Ferguson, a draw with Tangsted. Is that such a high level? Knocked out by Tucker as well, who was good but not really stand out good. Savarese obviously years after his prime tbf. Holyfield is really the only top fighter that he lost to and of course he was destroyed

I would say actually, why not Rahman ahead of Wlad as well, rather than 8 spots below? A bigger single win than anything Wlad has and over a fighter comparable to and possibly better than Mike Tyson. He also beat a guy who stopped Wlad! And he battered a guy who should have gotten the decision over Brewster right after Brewster beat Wlad. Should really have a win over Tua as well. Their h2h was when Rock was well finished so it's not that relevant.

Seems like a shoe in using that same logic?

Caractacus wrote: ↑28 Jan 2020, 20:31 Number One !
It was not "Dr. Ironfist's fault so many listed here were born so many years earlier.

Contendeh wrote: ↑28 Jan 2020, 19:57 Hart doesn’t get enough credit for his win over Jack Johnson. Yes, it’s a disputed win, but it’s no blanket robbery either.

Like most exciting, swarming fighters he wasn’t much good past 30. Too many ring battles.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑29 Jan 2020, 11:52

Caractacus wrote: ↑28 Jan 2020, 20:31 Number One !
It was not "Dr. Ironfist's fault so many listed here were born so many years earlier.

I didn't list him because he never a lineal champion. Not to mention that he wasn't every good.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑30 Jan 2020, 11:55 Didn't reall want to talk about Vitaly Klitschko; he isn't a lineal champion.
Contendeh mentioned Marvin Hart. Should he be up their higher?
Don't see how I can rate him higher than Tommy Burns, but maybe Burns should up a bit as well.

Caractacus wrote: ↑31 Jan 2020, 15:58 Dr. IronFist vrs no.34.