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Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 09:37
by Ruthless-RKO
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Frankie Gavin has retired from boxing – but his fighting days may not be over.

Gavin turned professional in 2009 after becoming the first Brit to win world amateur gold and as a pro, he captured the Lonsdale belt outright and challenged Kell Brook for world honours.

He’s decided to hang up his gloves at 33 after 26 wins in 30 fights – and says he’s tempted to join the growing bareknuckle boxing circuit.

The Birmingham slickster will be ringside at the next show at London’s O2 Indigo on Saturday, January 25 and said: “I’ve watched it on television and it could be good.

“You don’t’ want to get hit in a bareknuckle fight – and that was always my game.


“Technically, I would be the best they’ve got.”

Former professional gloved boxers John Wayne Hibbert and Travis Dickinson have found the transition to bareknuckle tough, while ex-English champion Tyler Goodjohn has been able to see the punches coming from the ex-kickboxers and MMA fighters he’s been facing and his defensive smarts have had more than one million internet views.

Gavin says a possible target for him is Curtis Woodhouse, who he outpointed on a majority points vote in Liverpool in July, 2011.

“I’m just going to get back into training, start enjoying it again and see what happens,” he said.

Gavin is in the gym most nights at Hall Green Amateur Boxing Club.

That was where he was based for the majority of his amateur career with Tom Chaney.

Chaney taught Gavin what he called the “punch, move, punch, move” tactics that took him to Commonwealth Games gold in 2006 and the World Championship the following year.

Only David Haye (silver), Carl Froch (bronze) and Neil Perkins (bronze) had ever won medals for England at the World Championship and Gavin struck gold with six wins in 10 days.

True, the Cubans weren’t there, but Aleksei Tishchenko was and at the time, the 23 year-old Russian was rated possibly the best pound-for-pound amateur in the world.

He had won Olympic gold in 2004 and the World Championship the following year, but found Gavin unfathomable in the semi finals and was beaten 19-10.

In the final, Gavin outpointed Italy’s Domenico Valentino and ahead of the Beijing Olympics, Gavin looked to be one of Britain’s best hopes for gold.

The news that Gavin had to pull out because he could no longer make 60kgs was national news and a swarm of photographers were waiting for him when he arrived home.

“Nobody was to blame,” said Gavin weeks later when the dust had settled. “I just grew too much.”

Gavin made his pro debut on the same show as James DeGale and Billy-Joe Saunders.

They won world honours while Gavin fell short when challenging Kell Brook for his IBF welterweight title in May, 2015.

On better nights, Gavin took the British title off Junior Witter and beat Denton Vassell and David Barnes.

He said: “Obviously I underachieved. It didn’t go as planned.

“I was world No 1 as an amateur and sometimes I think that once I turned pro, I fell out of love with it.

”I still won the British title and fought for the world title, but I should have done more.”


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Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 09:49
by Stuarty
Always thought Frankie seemed a decent enough dude. Lacked the discipline to match his talent though. Not sure about that BKB stuff tbh. Just seems like pure brutality.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 13:50
by Ruthless-RKO
Stuarty wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 09:49 Always thought Frankie seemed a decent enough dude. Lacked the discipline to match his talent though. Not sure about that BKB stuff tbh. Just seems like pure brutality.
Yeh.. Some say he should have taken the W against Bundu.


Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 13:59
by margaret thatcher
Looking a bit chonk there

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 14:22
by Stuarty
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 13:50
Stuarty wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 09:49 Always thought Frankie seemed a decent enough dude. Lacked the discipline to match his talent though. Not sure about that BKB stuff tbh. Just seems like pure brutality.
Yeh.. Some say he should have taken the W against Bundu.

I had Bundu outworking him in that one i'm sure. He showed balls in that fight though.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 14:22
by Stuarty
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 13:59 Looking a bit chonk there
He's on the Ricky Hatton diet :OhYes:

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 17:13
by SAPFO
Gavins a Birmingham fan, and one eyed Baz, who is also a Birmingham fan, is a ref in the BKB setup. That’s the link there.


Heard Gavin is working on the railways nowdays.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 18:03
by Ruthless-RKO
SAPFO wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 17:13 Gavins a Birmingham fan, and one eyed Baz, who is also a Birmingham fan, is a ref in the BKB setup. That’s the link there.
Heard Gavin is working on the railways nowdays.
Did he not invest what ever money he made?

Surely must have made £100k against Brook at least, it was ppv as well.

It’s not a lot on boxing terms but it’s a start. Considering it was 6 years ago.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 18:07
by chiggsy
SAPFO wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 17:13 Gavins a Birmingham fan, and one eyed Baz, who is also a Birmingham fan, is a ref in the BKB setup. That’s the link there.


Heard Gavin is working on the railways nowdays.
Not that there's anything at all wrong with working on the railways but with a bit of discipline he could of easily made light welter where he could of done big things.

It's tragic how feeble an effort he put into his pro career but determination and dedication are often two over looked qualities that are needed to make it to the top on this sport.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 18:08
by mickey1975
Gavin’s style is terrible for BKB.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 23 Jan 2020, 18:10
by margaret thatcher
mickey1975 wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 18:08 Gavin’s style is terrible for BKB.
Ya, reminds me of Paulie losing to that mediocre MMA fighter

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 04:55
by THEBUTCH
British title holder, EBU challenge and "world" title challenge is a very good pro career and as everyone knows he was a superb amateur. The World Amateur championship Gold medal was historic. That's Gavin's very own piece of history.

The projections for his pro career were way off. Yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the Bundu defeat defined his level. The world class Brook dismissed him easily and the gulf in class was stark.

I think there was a lot of anticipation on Gavin turning in a world class performance but in reality it was never in Frankie to do that, at least not as a pro. He often failed to demonstrate particularly high ability at domestic level.

I wish him well in his next chapter and hope he steers well clear of any of the other combat stuff around. There's an awful lot he could pass on to amateur boxers as a trainer.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 09:20
by Stuarty
THEBUTCH wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 04:55 British title holder, EBU challenge and "world" title challenge is a very good pro career and as everyone knows he was a superb amateur. The World Amateur championship Gold medal was historic. That's Gavin's very own piece of history.

The projections for his pro career were way off. Yes, hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the Bundu defeat defined his level. The world class Brook dismissed him easily and the gulf in class was stark.

I think there was a lot of anticipation on Gavin turning in a world class performance but in reality it was never in Frankie to do that, at least not as a pro. He often failed to demonstrate particularly high ability at domestic level.

I wish him well in his next chapter and hope he steers well clear of any of the other combat stuff around. There's an awful lot he could pass on to amateur boxers as a trainer.
:TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 11:59
by Coco
Doing the weight and being in shape is huge in boxing.
If he does BKB he will be in against a 15 stone guy who would be able to take a few shots

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 12:23
by Stuarty
SAPFO wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 17:13 Gavins a Birmingham fan, and one eyed Baz, who is also a Birmingham fan, is a ref in the BKB setup. That’s the link there.


Heard Gavin is working on the railways nowdays.
Sounds like a nickname you'd give to your penis that :maybe:

Wouldn't say that to his face mind :lol:

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 12:24
by Stuarty
Coco wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 11:59 Doing the weight and being in shape is huge in boxing.
If he does BKB he will be in against a 15 stone guy who would be able to take a few shots
Frankie looks about 17 stone now so he's cool :TU:

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 14:45
by Nightmare Roy
Is there much money in the BKB? I imagine he’s had some decent purses over the years from boxing.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 15:36
by margaret thatcher
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 18:03
SAPFO wrote: 23 Jan 2020, 17:13 Gavins a Birmingham fan, and one eyed Baz, who is also a Birmingham fan, is a ref in the BKB setup. That’s the link there.
Heard Gavin is working on the railways nowdays.
Did he not invest what ever money he made?

Surely must have made £100k against Brook at least, it was ppv as well.

It’s not a lot on boxing terms but it’s a start. Considering it was 6 years ago.
Even if he did invest it, it's not like he was raking in millions after deductions. Very very very few boxers, even among the high level ones, can just go off into the sunset without finding another job. And for some I imagine even if they have the money a job still gives them order and such

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 15:39
by Coco
Nightmare Roy wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 14:45 Is there much money in the BKB? I imagine he’s had some decent purses over the years from boxing.
They have got a tv deal and gone PPV.
Dunno how much of that filters down to the fighter or if they are on a percentage.
They usually fight at the O2 so it's no small fry operation.
Someone like Frankie wouldn't be doing it for 500 quid, must be a few grand.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 15:43
by Nightmare Roy
Coco wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 15:39
Nightmare Roy wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 14:45 Is there much money in the BKB? I imagine he’s had some decent purses over the years from boxing.
They have got a tv deal and gone PPV.
Dunno how much of that filters down to the fighter or if they are on a percentage.
They usually fight at the O2 so it's no small fry operation.
Someone like Frankie wouldn't be doing it for 500 quid, must be a few grand.
Cheers, I had no idea it was that big, not my cup of tea to be honest but good luck to them

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 16:05
by Glass Joe
It's the small O2 venue where they have the BT Ultimate boxing. Probably the worst venue in the uk.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 16:53
by Old bones Ian
Bit of an odd pro career really, always promised more than he delivered, but still won Lonsdale belt outright , beat some good fighters and took some unbeaten records.

I think he just found the pro game a bit boring, and maybe that showed in his conditioning in some fights

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 17:09
by Ruthless-RKO
Glass Joe wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 16:05 It's the small O2 venue where they have the BT Ultimate boxing. Probably the worst venue in the uk.
Yehh the Indigo

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 19:17
by Steveh583
Thought skeete deserved the nod against him. Really annoyed me that decision. Wouldn't call it a robbery (like every close fight seems to get labelled nowadays) but skeete was so much more committed and wanted it more, so I really hoped he would win.

As for bareknuckle, Gavin obv thinks it's an easy paycheque he won't have to train too hard for.

Re: Frankie Gavin Retires

Posted: 24 Jan 2020, 21:04
by TheLeprechaun
Steveh583 wrote: 24 Jan 2020, 19:17 Thought skeete deserved the nod against him. Really annoyed me that decision. Wouldn't call it a robbery (like every close fight seems to get labelled nowadays) but skeete was so much more committed and wanted it more, so I really hoped he would win.

As for bareknuckle, Gavin obv thinks it's an easy paycheque he won't have to train too hard for.
Yeah Gavin got the benefit of a few close fights.