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“Of course!”

That was Demetrius Andrade’s response when he was asked during a post-fight interview with Sky Sports if he’d be willing to travel to England to fight Billy Joe Saunders next. Andrade just hopes Saunders agrees to fight him again and that their promoter, Eddie Hearn, can reschedule a bout that initially was supposed to take place in October 2018 for later this year.


“I mean, it’s the easiest one [to make],” Andrade told Sky Sports after his ninth-round stoppage of Luke Keeler on Thursday night in Miami. “It’s the realistic one, as far as DAZN, Matchroom, and you know, we both can make it happen sooner than later. And so I think he needs it and I need it, more than me having to go and try to make a deal and postpone and do business with [Jermall] Charlo and them, when Eddie said he made the offer, and we’re willing to do whatever it takes to get the fight.” from BS site

It's not Andrade and Eddie responsibility that Charlo or his team didn't respond to that offer. So Andrade should focus on getting BJS or Jacobs.

Boo Boo is willing to step up! Nothing to laugh about! He deserves respect.

Forgive me if I’m wrong, but apart from Canelo facing Danny Jacobs, how many times have DAZN staged marquee bouts involving their big-name in-house stable of fighters?

It appears to me that the tactic of preference for DAZN (barring maybe one or possibly two exceptions at most) is to generally either match the big-names in their stable against second-tier anonymous B-level fighters or against stars from rival boxing content providers (i.e. those directly affiliated with Top Rank or the PBC).

Look at the media announcements of DAZN’s biggest-name stars when they joined forces with Matchroom and GBP, then review the type of opposition they faced afterwards.

The trend seems obvious to me, but perhaps I’m wrong?

For instance: Demetrius Andrade claims he’s capable of competing at 160lbs or 168lbs, but Eddie Hearn prefers to labour over the fact that Jermall Charlo (from the rival PBC stable) hasn’t accepted his offer, but DAZN already have lots of big-name fighters capable of competing in those weight classes (i.e. Canelo, Jaime Manguia, Daniel Jacobs, Gennady Golovkin, Callum Smith, Billy Joe Saunders, Dmitry Bivol etc.).

Does anybody recall Eddie Hearn (during October last year) harshly criticising Chris Eubank Jr. for facing Matt Korobov, claiming that he should instead be facing the likes of Saunders or Smith on PPV?

And Eubank Jr. responded by saying the following: “If Callum Smith and Billy Joe Saunders are so exciting, why won’t you match them together?”

Eubank Jr’s response was fair, but it seems that Hearn and De La Hoya are immune from receiving criticism.

Also, Canelo recently fought a Top Rank fighter known as Sergey Kovalev. He was expected to face Callum Smith or Billy Joe Saunders next, but instead he’s likely to face another Top Rank fighter (Ryoto Murata). And GGG hasn't faced any of his big-name stablemates since he signed-up. The same applies to other DAZN fighters.

Why isn't anybody demanding to know the reason why DAZN isn't staging marquee bouts involving their biggest-name in-house stable of fighters?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 08:49 Forgive me if I’m wrong

Why? you never accept it anyway

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 08:58

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 08:49 Forgive me if I’m wrong

Why? you never accept it anyway

LOL So True.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 08:49 Forgive me if I’m wrong, but apart from Canelo facing Danny Jacobs, how many times have DAZN staged marquee bouts involving their big-name in-house stable of fighters?

Be patient. DAZN will have to put marquee fights.

Now Boo Boo is willing to fight BJS. Let's see if BJS 'drops his pen' again.

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 09:05

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 08:49 Forgive me if I’m wrong, but apart from Canelo facing Danny Jacobs, how many times have DAZN staged marquee bouts involving their big-name in-house stable of fighters?

Be patient. DAZN will have to put marquee fights.

There must be a reason why DAZN have refrained from staging marquee bouts involving their big-name in-house stable of fighters?

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 08:47 Boo Boo is willing to step up! Nothing to laugh about! He deserves respect.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 10:02

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 09:05

Be patient. DAZN will have to put marquee fights.

There must be a reason why DAZN have refrained from staging marquee bouts involving their big-name in-house stable of fighters?

Probably but I think we should expect to see in the near future some marquee fights.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 10:29

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 08:47 Boo Boo is willing to step up! Nothing to laugh about! He deserves respect.

I commend Boo Boo's initiative .

apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 12:56

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 10:29

I commend Boo Boo's initiative .

You've always had a hard on for him.

Both of them will want so much money that this fight will never happen, as both of them can't draw sh!t.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 17:18 Both of them will want so much money that this fight will never happen, as both of them can't draw sh!t.

Probably but I expect DAZN to pump enough money. They need to air some marquee fights.

One of those "established names put on total fornicating stinker" bouts... Meh
One of them should fight Smith first

apollo creed wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 04:45

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 17:18 Both of them will want so much money that this fight will never happen, as both of them can't draw sh!t.

Probably but I expect DAZN to pump enough money. They need to air some marquee fights.

Watching Andrade vs BJS will have some casual fans cancel their subscriptions.

Apart from Canelo facing Danny Jacobs, DAZN won't stage marquee bouts exclusively involving their big-name in-house stable of fighters headlining the main events (at least not for those fighters capable of competing in the 160lbs & 168lbs weight classes).

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 12:56

apollo creed wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 04:45

Probably but I expect DAZN to pump enough money. They need to air some marquee fights.

Watching Andrade vs BJS will have some casual fans cancel their subscriptions.

It doesn't matter for me. Andrade showed that he's willing to fight BJS and I want to see this fight in 2020. People complain that Andrade has a poor resume but also they don't want to see him fighting against a good name?! WTF?!lol He needs to start from somwhere and a potential fight against BJS would be a good start.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 04:42 Apart from Canelo facing Danny Jacobs, DAZN won't stage marquee bouts exclusively involving their big-name in-house stable of fighters headlining the main events (at least not for those fighters capable of competing in the 160lbs & 168lbs weight classes).

Imo Andrade vs BJS fight winner would deserve a fight vs Canelo more than Jacobs(rematch).

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 05:11

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 04:42 Apart from Canelo facing Danny Jacobs, DAZN won't stage marquee bouts exclusively involving their big-name in-house stable of fighters headlining the main events (at least not for those fighters capable of competing in the 160lbs & 168lbs weight classes).

Imo Andrade vs BJS fight winner would deserve a fight vs Canelo more than Jacobs(rematch).

Yes, you're probably right. However, DAZN won’t stage a fight between Andrade and Saunders.

And it doesn’t seem likely that Canelo or Jacobs will be matched against Andrade or Saunders either.

Political boxing sh!t show, as per usual!

It's not the two most exciting fighters, but they are each at the upper level of their division and are two guys that should be facing each other, regardless of if it would be a stinker of a fight or not.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 06:32

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 05:11

Imo Andrade vs BJS fight winner would deserve a fight vs Canelo more than Jacobs(rematch).

Yes, you're probably right. However, DAZN won’t stage a fight between Andrade and Saunders.

And it doesn’t seem likely that Canelo or Jacobs will be matched against Andrade or Saunders either.

DAZN would have to match them or otherwise what's the point of spending money on them ? Callum, BJS, Jacobs and Andrade need to be matched each other, period.

Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 07:27 Political boxing sh!t show, as per usual!

It's not the two most exciting fighters, but they are each at the upper level of their division and are two guys that should be facing each other, regardless of if it would be a stinker of a fight or not.

Agree. People want fights like Canelo vs BJS/Andrade or old Golovkin vs Andrade/BJS but they forget that Canelo and GGG are already established fighters with high profiles. Guys like BJS and Andrade need to fight each other to step up to the next level.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 09:55

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 06:32
Yes, you're probably right. However, DAZN won’t stage a fight between Andrade and Saunders.

And it doesn’t seem likely that Canelo or Jacobs will be matched against Andrade or Saunders either.

DAZN would have to match them or otherwise what's the point of spending money on them ? Callum, BJS, Jacobs and Andrade need to be matched each other, period.

Most people, including myself, assumed that the purpose of DAZN’s recruitment drive (managed by GBP and Matchroom), was to build an impressive stable of fighters, with a view to staging marquee events headlined by in-house fighters, but (in terms of fighters capable of competing at 160lbs or 168lbs) that clearly hasn’t happened.

Apart from the Canelo-Jacobs bout, I don’t understand the reason why DAZN cannot stage round-robin tournaments, similar to the WBSS, involving the likes of Canelo, Jaime Manguia, Daniel Jacobs, Gennady Golovkin, Callum Smith, Billy Joe Saunders, Dmitry Bivol etc.

Instead, DAZN’s big-name fighters are being matched against either second-tier anonymous B-level fighters or against stars from rival boxing content providers (i.e. those directly affiliated with Top Rank or the PBC).

Put it this way, people applauded Eddie Hearn when he mocked Chris Eubank Jr. (a PBC fighter) for choosing to face one of his Al Haymon stablemates, Matt Korobov, claiming that he should instead be facing DAZN fighters like Saunders or Smith on PPV.

People also approved of Eddie Hearn’s criticism of another Al Haymon fighter, Jermell Charlo, when the PBC camp didn’t respond to his offer for the twin to face Demetrius Andrade on DAZN.

People didn’t seem too bothered about Canelo facing a past-his-prime Top Rank affiliated fighter like Sergey Kovalev, instead of DAZN stablemate Gennady Golovkin.

Also, Oscar De La Hoya was generally expected to orchestrate a fight for Canelo that involved one of his DAZN stablemates, Callum Smith or Billy Joe Saunders, but instead GBP look likely to match the Mexican star against another Top Rank fighter like Ryota Murata.

And it seems that Eddie Hearn and Oscar De La Hoya are both utterly immune from criticism for their failure to orchestrate bouts involving DAZN’s big name in-house stablemates.