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Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 18:43
by zuru
Jr Welterweight 15 rds
Both are tough.I think Gatti is the harder puncher,Hatton the better boxer.
Early on in his career I thought Hatton was really impressive.
Good fast combinations,good power.
But Gatti ,while limited in areas ,is an old era fighter.He can excel in trench warfare not hampered by a closed eye cut etc.

Hatton enjoys some early success with good boxing and combinations.But the fact he's able to connect as he is draws him into some slugging.All it takes for Gatti is 1 shot.Hes the fighter that takes 3 to land one.

Gatti is a great finisher.10th rd ko for Gatti.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 19:03
by Seamus
Hatton in a beatdown ending in a TKO around the 7th.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 19:06
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Hatton is light years better than gatti

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 19:42
by Onetimeonly
Seamus wrote: 29 Apr 2020, 19:03 Hatton in a beatdown ending in a TKO around the 7th.
:TU:

Gatti couldn't compete at that level.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 21:18
by gilgamesh
My love for Gatti is well known. He's pretty much my all time favorite fighter.

He wouldn't beat Ricky Hatton.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 21:49
by goose 5
Hatton would knock him out with a body shot.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 29 Apr 2020, 22:28
by zuru
Man I'm on the losing side again.I don't know maybe I'm picking with my heart and not my head.Hatton was special i thought earlier on but I think Gatti gets him.Ah well.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 00:36
by Woldemar
Hatton all wrong for Gatti.Hatton TKO 9

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 10:51
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Hatton closed distance extremely well against floyd and tszyu who are atg fighters. Hed outmuscle gatti in close and murder his body. Gatti wouldnt win a minute

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 13:03
by gilgamesh
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 10:51 Hatton closed distance extremely well against floyd and tszyu who are atg fighters. Hed outmuscle gatti in close and murder his body. Gatti wouldnt win a minute
Oh come on now. I'll grant you that Hatton would win the fight handily, but he's not so overwhelmingly better than Gatti, that he'd just completely shut him out every step of the way. Gatti would have his moments.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 14:30
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 13:03
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 10:51 Hatton closed distance extremely well against floyd and tszyu who are atg fighters. Hed outmuscle gatti in close and murder his body. Gatti wouldnt win a minute
Oh come on now. I'll grant you that Hatton would win the fight handily, but he's not so overwhelmingly better than Gatti, that he'd just completely shut him out every step of the way. Gatti would have his moments.
Yes he is.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 14:33
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Other than bleeding name something gatti did better than hatton. Name someone gatti beat who is better than tszyu or malinaggi. Its a beatdown.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 14:33
by gilgamesh
Onetimeonly wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 14:30
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 13:03

Oh come on now. I'll grant you that Hatton would win the fight handily, but he's not so overwhelmingly better than Gatti, that he'd just completely shut him out every step of the way. Gatti would have his moments.
Yes he is.
Based on what?

He's 1-2 in his 3 biggest fights. I mean he's better than Gatti, but he's not some Pound for Pound level World beater.

It's not like Gatti was a complete scrub.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 14:36
by gilgamesh
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 14:33 Other than bleeding name something gatti did better than hatton. Name someone gatti beat who is better than tszyu or malinaggi. Its a beatdown.
He could jab and move better than Hatton.

Gatti definitely never beat someone better than Tszyu, that's why Hatton is easily the favorite. I never said he wasn't. All I'm saying is that Gatti could at least manage some slight success in the bout. He'd land some shots here and there.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 14:38
by Jeff_lacy_ko
My theory is he does box outside but that hatton would have zero problem getting inside. Look at what he did to tszyu and malignaggi. He got inside on one of the all time greats (obviously floyd picked him apart when he got there)

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 14:41
by gilgamesh
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 14:38 My theory is he does box outside but that hatton would have zero problem getting inside. Look at what he did to tszyu and malignaggi. He got inside on one of the all time greats (obviously floyd picked him apart when he got there)
Tszyu was ahead going into the 12th round I thought, but Hatton had damaged him enough that he had to stop in his corner. He didn't shut out Tszyu.

He did pretty much shut out Malignaggi though.

Hatton definitely did better against Floyd than Gatti did. Hatton probably won at least 3 rounds against Floyd, Gatti got demolished.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 14:43
by Jeff_lacy_ko
He was slightly ahead of tszyu i thought on my card. He took punishment to get inside for sure but tszyu is a hall of famer and a great counter puncher... but my point was hatton got inside on even him and beat him.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 15:58
by gilgamesh
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 14:43 He was slightly ahead of tszyu i thought on my card. He took punishment to get inside for sure but tszyu is a hall of famer and a great counter puncher... but my point was hatton got inside on even him and beat him.
I had it 6-5 Tszyu I think. Might've been 6-5 Hatton. It's been so long I really don't remember. Point is it had been an evenly contested fight pretty much up until the stoppage.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 17:00
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 14:33
Onetimeonly wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 14:30

Yes he is.
Based on what?

He's 1-2 in his 3 biggest fights. I mean he's better than Gatti, but he's not some Pound for Pound level World beater.

It's not like Gatti was a complete scrub.
Gatti got his ass kicked by Ivan Robinson and angel manfredy. He wouldn't have been competitive with the tszyu that Barton beat. He wasn't a scrub, but nothing in his career suggests anything but a beating here.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 17:01
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 14:36
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 14:33 Other than bleeding name something gatti did better than hatton. Name someone gatti beat who is better than tszyu or malinaggi. Its a beatdown.
He could jab and move better than Hatton.

Gatti definitely never beat someone better than Tszyu, that's why Hatton is easily the favorite. I never said he wasn't. All I'm saying is that Gatti could at least manage some slight success in the bout. He'd land some shots here and there.
Of course he'd land punches. He just wouldn't win rounds.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 18:23
by gilgamesh
Onetimeonly wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 17:00
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 14:33

Based on what?

He's 1-2 in his 3 biggest fights. I mean he's better than Gatti, but he's not some Pound for Pound level World beater.

It's not like Gatti was a complete scrub.
Gatti got his ass kicked by Ivan Robinson and angel manfredy. He wouldn't have been competitive with the tszyu that Barton beat. He wasn't a scrub, but nothing in his career suggests anything but a beating here.
The Tszyu that Barton beat? Who is Barton?

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 18:35
by giacomino
This is Hatton at his best weight and Gatti 10 pounds over his best weight. I always enjoyed watching Ricky but thought he was cleverly matched as much as anything. He would have beaten Gatti soundly at 140, but he wasn't a class above Arturo in general when you consider Gatti was at his best as a destroyer at junior lightweight. It's a little like complaining Hatton couldn't beat the best junior middleweights of his era, which he couldn't

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 18:40
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 18:23
Onetimeonly wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 17:00
Gatti got his ass kicked by Ivan Robinson and angel manfredy. He wouldn't have been competitive with the tszyu that Barton beat. He wasn't a scrub, but nothing in his career suggests anything but a beating here.
The Tszyu that Barton beat? Who is Barton?
He's my phone's autocorrect for hatton.

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 18:52
by gilgamesh
Onetimeonly wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 18:40
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 18:23

The Tszyu that Barton beat? Who is Barton?
He's my phone's autocorrect for hatton.
Ah ok. That makes sense. I kinda figured that, but I thought maybe you were implying that some amateur named Barton that had beaten Tszyu would've beaten Gatti or something :lol:

Re: Arturo Gatti vs Ricky Hatton

Posted: 30 Apr 2020, 18:55
by gilgamesh
giacomino wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 18:35 This is Hatton at his best weight and Gatti 10 pounds over his best weight. I always enjoyed watching Ricky but thought he was cleverly matched as much as anything. He would have beaten Gatti soundly at 140, but he wasn't a class above Arturo in general when you consider Gatti was at his best as a destroyer at junior lightweight. It's a little like complaining Hatton couldn't beat the best junior middleweights of his era, which he couldn't
Gatti wasn't a destroyer at 130 either. I'm not even sure he was at his best there actually. He seemed to get the best out of his abilities as a 140 pounder actually, but that had a lot to do with the fact that he realized he had to at least TRY to box, and couldn't just get into a blood and guts war every single time.