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In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 14:06
by apollo creed
Imo if Pirog was healthy, he would've fought Golovkin.

"With Felix Sturm and Daniel Geale set to meet on September 1 in Germany, another big middleweight fight is ready to go, as WBO titlist Dmitry Pirog will face Gennady Golovkin on August 25 on HBO. Steve Kim first reported that the fight was being "seriously discussed," and Dan Rafael seemed to confirm it as a done deal." from badlefthook

I think Pirog vs GGG would've been a very competitive fight at that time. :box:

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 14:21
by Enlightened-One
More importantly, what financial offers did K2 and HBO make to GGG’s world-rated peers during 2012? :TU:

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 14:27
by margaret thatcher
Big enough to Pirog I guess

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 15:20
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote: 01 May 2020, 14:21 More importantly, what financial offers did K2 and HBO make to GGG’s world-rated peers during 2012? :TU:
These are inside things but all I know is Pirog wanted to fight G. :TU:

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 15:24
by apollo creed
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2020, 14:27 Big enough to Pirog I guess
Pirog was one of the best MW's at that time. :TU:

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 15:51
by gilgamesh
Pirog's career ended right around this time didn't it?

All of 'em either had different contractual obligations or had bigger money fights to fight at this time, so it's not really a surprise GGG didn't get any of these fights. Definitely a shame though.

Wish he would've been able to get some of these matchups. He would've broke through as a bigger star sooner, and would have his biggest on his resume probably out of almost any of these except for Chavez Jr. maybe.

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 16:00
by margaret thatcher
gilgamesh wrote: 01 May 2020, 15:51 Pirog's career ended right around this time didn't it?

All of 'em either had different contractual obligations or had bigger money fights to fight at this time, so it's not really a surprise GGG didn't get any of these fights. Definitely a shame though.

Wish he would've been able to get some of these matchups. He would've broke through as a bigger star sooner, and would have his biggest on his resume probably out of almost any of these except for Chavez Jr. maybe.
Him and GGG were scheduled to fight on HBO but then Pirog got injured and eventually retired

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 16:52
by apollo creed
gilgamesh wrote: 01 May 2020, 15:51 Pirog's career ended right around this time didn't it?

All of 'em either had different contractual obligations or had bigger money fights to fight at this time, so it's not really a surprise GGG didn't get any of these fights. Definitely a shame though.

Wish he would've been able to get some of these matchups. He would've broke through as a bigger star sooner, and would have his biggest on his resume probably out of almost any of these except for Chavez Jr. maybe.
Chavez Jr vs GGG would've been a 'fun' fight to watch tbh. :bag:

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 16:52
by apollo creed
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2020, 16:00
gilgamesh wrote: 01 May 2020, 15:51 Pirog's career ended right around this time didn't it?

All of 'em either had different contractual obligations or had bigger money fights to fight at this time, so it's not really a surprise GGG didn't get any of these fights. Definitely a shame though.

Wish he would've been able to get some of these matchups. He would've broke through as a bigger star sooner, and would have his biggest on his resume probably out of almost any of these except for Chavez Jr. maybe.
Him and GGG were scheduled to fight on HBO but then Pirog got injured and eventually retired
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Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 16:54
by gilgamesh
apollo creed wrote: 01 May 2020, 16:52
gilgamesh wrote: 01 May 2020, 15:51 Pirog's career ended right around this time didn't it?

All of 'em either had different contractual obligations or had bigger money fights to fight at this time, so it's not really a surprise GGG didn't get any of these fights. Definitely a shame though.

Wish he would've been able to get some of these matchups. He would've broke through as a bigger star sooner, and would have his biggest on his resume probably out of almost any of these except for Chavez Jr. maybe.
Chavez Jr vs GGG would've been a 'fun' fight to watch tbh. :bag:
Yeah it would've been fun certainly, I just meant he wouldn't be considered as big a win as the others.

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 16:56
by margaret thatcher
I don't think it would've been fun, Chavez largely just shells up vs superior opponents. To me it has 120-108 all over it

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 16:56
by Thomastearns
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2020, 16:00
gilgamesh wrote: 01 May 2020, 15:51 Pirog's career ended right around this time didn't it?

All of 'em either had different contractual obligations or had bigger money fights to fight at this time, so it's not really a surprise GGG didn't get any of these fights. Definitely a shame though.

Wish he would've been able to get some of these matchups. He would've broke through as a bigger star sooner, and would have his biggest on his resume probably out of almost any of these except for Chavez Jr. maybe.
Him and GGG were scheduled to fight on HBO but then Pirog got injured and eventually retired

Yes, a ruptured spinal disc (whilst in training for GGG) eventually put paid to a highly promising career.

A real tough break for Dmitry. Unlike Jacobs there was no miracle road back. In fact I'm not sure if that kind of debilitating injury could be overcome even with today's rehab programs.

Whether it was a shame (or perhaps even a blessing) for GGG is not certain. Now we'll never know.

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 17:36
by Cent0089
If i remember correctly, Pirog - GGG was planned and maybe set, but then came Pirog career ending injury

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 01 May 2020, 18:06
by boxing_rocks
Pirog was the only realistic fight to make. The other 3 wouldn't step in the ring with GGG.

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 02 May 2020, 05:40
by apollo creed
gilgamesh wrote: 01 May 2020, 16:54
apollo creed wrote: 01 May 2020, 16:52

Chavez Jr vs GGG would've been a 'fun' fight to watch tbh. :bag:
Yeah it would've been fun certainly, I just meant he wouldn't be considered as big a win as the others.
Well, that fight would've drawn a lot of interest from the public. :box:

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 02 May 2020, 05:43
by apollo creed
Thomastearns wrote: 01 May 2020, 16:56
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 May 2020, 16:00

Him and GGG were scheduled to fight on HBO but then Pirog got injured and eventually retired

Yes, a ruptured spinal disc (whilst in training for GGG) eventually put paid to a highly promising career.

A real tough break for Dmitry. Unlike Jacobs there was no miracle road back. In fact I'm not sure if that kind of debilitating injury could be overcome even with today's rehab programs.

Whether it was a shame (or perhaps even a blessing) for GGG is not certain. Now we'll never know.
It's a pity that such a good fighter like Pirog had a very bad injury which ended his career. Pirog was a very good fighter.

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 02 May 2020, 05:47
by apollo creed
Cent0089 wrote: 01 May 2020, 17:36 If i remember correctly, Pirog - GGG was planned and maybe set, but then came Pirog career ending injury
:TU:

The only true champion at that time with 'iron balls'.

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 02 May 2020, 05:52
by apollo creed
boxing_rocks wrote: 01 May 2020, 18:06 Pirog was the only realistic fight to make. The other 3 wouldn't step in the ring with GGG.
:TU:

True. Pirog was a fearless warrior. The other champions were hidden after some silly excuses and pretended that G wasn't a top mw. :doh:

Re: In 2012 between Martinez, JCCJr, Pirog and Quillin what was the most realistic fight to get made for GGG?

Posted: 02 May 2020, 06:05
by apollo creed
Dmitry Pirog, Former WBO Champion, Enters Russian State Duma
By Alexey Sukachev Published On Sun Mar 5, 2017, 07:48 PM EST
By Alexey Sukachev

"With the rapidly looming fight between multi-title middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin and WBA regular 160lb titlist Daniel Jacobs, news came from Russia of their common opponent – a real one (for Jacobs) and a virtual one (for Golovkin).

Former WBO middleweight champion Dmitry Pirog, who was recognized as one of the most intelligent Russian fighters both in and outside the ring, launched his political career to join Russia’s first every heavyweight champion Nikolay Valuev as a member of the State Duma.

The State Duma is the lower house of the Federal Assembly of Russia (legislature), the upper house being the Federation Council of Russia. Pirog will represent the United Russia, the main party in Russia.

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Pirog, 36 and nicknamed the Grandmaster, has never been elected but got his access due to his fellow local native Alexander Metkin choosing to concentrate on his business and also due to his poor attendance at the State Duma sessions. Pirog is a native of the Temryuk, Krasnodar Region, but lives in the nearby city of Gelendzhik.

Pirog turned pro in July 2005 and won a national title in his only fourth fight, beating 25-5 fringe contender Sergey Tatevosyan. In the next four years he has been steadily approaching a world title opportunity, beating (among others) local stars Alexey Chirkov and Aslanbek Kodzoev, Uzbek veteran Kuvanych Toygonbayev, American veteran Eric Mitchell and former world title challenger Kofi Jantuah.

Still he was a prohibitive underdog against rising star Daniel Jacobs, when he entered the ring in Las Vegas on July 31, 2010. Less than five rounds later a star was born, and Pirog was crowned a new WBO champion after knocking out Jacobs with a huge right hand.

Unfortunately, Pirog’s title run was inconclusive. He defended his title thrice – against Argentinean JC Maciel, his countryman Gennady Martirosyan and Japanese boxer Nobuhiro Ishida.

But Pirog never got the major fight he was gunning for, being dismissed by Sergio Gabriel Martinez and falling out with back injury from an HBO televised fight with Golovkin in 2012. Golovkin had been mentioned as a possible opponent for Pirog for as long as nine years.

Pirog virtually retired in 2013, although never announcing it officially, due to a string of bad back injuries. His final score as a pro is 20-0, with 15 KOs, and he is one of a select group of fighters to retire as an undefeated champion.

Outside the ring, Pirog has been different from many other fighters. His own business intact, the Russian has obtained two higher educations having graduated (both times with red diplomas) from the Sports Academy and from the Faculty of public administration of the Kuban State University. An avid chess player, he was also awarded with a silver medal while finishing his middle education at the school. His unusual boxing style and smart approach to both training and performing further underlined the unusual nature of this pugilist. He might be a good addition to the Duma." from BS


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