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He came from nowhere

Posted: 11 May 2020, 18:30
by margaret thatcher
Den Lebedev was pretty much unknown when he came over as a comeback opponent for Enzo, of course Den battered him and went on to become a unified world champ and longtime major player

Pac , though a lower weight champ, was totally unknown in the US when he stepped in as late replacement to challenge the favoured south African champ of the time, lEholo ledwaba . Jim Lampley was making jokes about not knowing how they were supposed to pronounce Pac's name

Some guys get hype and attention from early on, but what notably fighters made their big breakout while largely unknown

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 11 May 2020, 21:46
by jameswilson
Micky Theo.

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 11 May 2020, 21:48
by margaret thatcher
:OhYes:

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 11 May 2020, 23:59
by Grilling Machine
That scooter guy on Ronnie Pickering.

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 01:05
by (craig)
Tim Bradley was 6-1 underdog against Witter and would pave the way for the Witter - Hatton fight, he beat Witter and had a decent career.

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 02:26
by Fray Bentos
Goyo Vargas - who heard of that guy when he came over and filled in Paul Hodkinson.

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 02:28
by Fray Bentos
jameswilson wrote: 11 May 2020, 21:46 Micky Theo.
:lol:

and he's going nowhere - except to the boot of Shane Fury in a 'post fight exclusive interview' :lol: :doh:

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 02:30
by Fray Bentos
That yank who fought Freddie Flintoff, I have never seen someone try and not hit someone in that way since Joe Bugner!

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 02:40
by Deserter
Fray Bentos wrote: 12 May 2020, 02:26 Goyo Vargas - who heard of that guy when he came over and filled in Paul Hodkinson.
Yep, good call mate.... though I do remember in the wake of that some commentators going overboard the opposite way and expecting him to become a new Mexican great... and then Kevin Kelley beat him shortly afterwards.

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 04:08
by Fray Bentos
Deserter wrote: 12 May 2020, 02:40
Fray Bentos wrote: 12 May 2020, 02:26 Goyo Vargas - who heard of that guy when he came over and filled in Paul Hodkinson.
Yep, good call mate.... though I do remember in the wake of that some commentators going overboard the opposite way and expecting him to become a new Mexican great... and then Kevin Kelley beat him shortly afterwards.
He came and he went - his light shone so briefly but ever so brightly. :geek:

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 04:09
by Fray Bentos
Shhhh wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:07
Fray Bentos wrote: 12 May 2020, 02:30 That yank who fought Freddie Flintoff, I have never seen someone try and not hit someone in that way since Joe Bugner!
He was unbeaten :lol: :lol: He also crapped himself when he almost Ko’d Flintoff by mistake :lol:
:lol: You could see his thoughts on his face everytime he landed on Flintoff 'I am risking my massive post-fight bonus here' :box:

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 04:28
by JC
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 May 2020, 18:30Den Lebedev was pretty much unknown when he came over as a comeback opponent for Enzo, of course Den battered him and went on to become a unified world champ and longtime major player
Same with Ola Afolabi in the fight before that.

Enzo ended up with quite a few 'better than advertised' opponents.

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 04:31
by Counter-puncher
J-C wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:28
margaret thatcher wrote: 11 May 2020, 18:30Den Lebedev was pretty much unknown when he came over as a comeback opponent for Enzo, of course Den battered him and went on to become a unified world champ and longtime major player
Same with Ola Afolabi in the fight before that.

Enzo ended up with quite a few 'better than advertised' opponents.
great call

i just realised i've never seen any of the Huck - Afalobi fights, i've heard they were good ones, which one's the best of them? i think i'll stick it on tonight

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 04:37
by JC
Sergio Martinez and Winky Wright both went unnoticed and then ended up high in the P4P rankings.

Lot of Africans who have come over to the UK: Zolani Tete, Julius Indongo, etc.

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 04:41
by JC
Counter-puncher wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:31
J-C wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:28

Same with Ola Afolabi in the fight before that.

Enzo ended up with quite a few 'better than advertised' opponents.
great call

i just realised i've never seen any of the Huck - Afalobi fights, i've heard they were good ones, which one's the best of them? i think i'll stick it on tonight
From memory, I think the first one was the best.

Shame Huck Enzo never happened really, could not fail to be exciting that one.

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 05:02
by JC
Shhhh wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:59 Sakio Bika was regarded as a joke when he was announced as A joe Calzaghe opponent. Turns out he was tough as nails and decent
Good one. Calzaghe on points was 9/2 for that one :OhYes:

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 05:07
by Counter-puncher
J-C wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:41
Counter-puncher wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:31

great call

i just realised i've never seen any of the Huck - Afalobi fights, i've heard they were good ones, which one's the best of them? i think i'll stick it on tonight
From memory, I think the first one was the best.

Shame Huck Enzo never happened really, could not fail to be exciting that one.
cheers :TU:

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 05:08
by Counter-puncher
Shhhh wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:59 Sakio Bika was regarded as a joke when he was announced as A joe Calzaghe opponent.
that's before everyone saw his awesome hot trophy wife and realised he must be really good if he had a bird like that

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 05:14
by black panther
Counter-puncher wrote: 12 May 2020, 05:08
Shhhh wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:59 Sakio Bika was regarded as a joke when he was announced as A joe Calzaghe opponent.
that's before everyone saw his awesome hot trophy wife and realised he must be really good if he had a bird like that
:lol: :lol: :clap:

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 05:19
by banjo
Shhhh wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:59 Sakio Bika was regarded as a joke when he was announced as A joe Calzaghe opponent. Turns out he was tough as nails and decent
I'm not sure how people regarded him as a joke though, a year earlier he was battering WBC champ Markus Beyer before being robbed on a technicality when the doctor stopped the fight after 4 rounds due to a cut on Beyer and they went to the score cards for a draw.

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 05:29
by dapug
Buster Drayton

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 05:30
by AntonioMartin
Again, going back and bringing the Frank Bruno topic up, nobody knew who James Smith was when he beat Bruno and then gave Larry Holmes hell in their first bout...then of course won the WBA title and went 12 with a prime Mike Tyson!

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 05:33
by AntonioMartin
J-C wrote: 12 May 2020, 04:37 Sergio Martinez and Winky Wright both went unnoticed and then ended up high in the P4P rankings.
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Wright ended in the IBHOF and so will Martinez eventually...

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 05:40
by AntonioMartin
Also here are two she's who came from nowhere: Laura Serrano and Marcela Acuna both debuted against Christy Martin in world title fights and made excellent showings, Serrano actually drew with Martin..

Re: He came from nowhere

Posted: 12 May 2020, 06:11
by Wee Tommy
Shhhh wrote: 12 May 2020, 06:05
banjo wrote: 12 May 2020, 05:19

I'm not sure how people regarded him as a joke though, a year earlier he was battering WBC champ Markus Beyer before being robbed on a technicality when the doctor stopped the fight after 4 rounds due to a cut on Beyer and they went to the score cards for a draw.
No one really cared about that fight and was only 4 round technical draw. I remember peole ridiculing it as a defence for Joe especially as Calzaghe was expected to be fighting top opponents then
He almost beat Joe!