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Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight limit 225lbs?

Posted: 15 May 2020, 15:26
by revpickles
"Out of respect once again to the armed forces, the boxing world salutes you by introducing a brother in arms to the Cruiserweight division" Teddy Atlas



The cruiserweight division in boxing was introduced out of respect for the brave men who fought on battleships during the great war.
My great grandfather was a stoker on the HMS Lion at the Battle of Jutland and he won't be forgotten!
The second biggest in a fleet of battleships were called “cruisers"- and that's how the division got its name.
"To preserve boxing history the cruiserweight division has to stay the second biggest weight class in the sport to remember the brave people that shaped our lives today". (National Sporting Club past and present 1902)


Teddy Atlas, Dennis Hobson, and Rick Glaser to name a few all think that the time has now come to introduce a breath of fresh air into the sport of boxing and once again the history of our forefathers in the armed forces may hold the answer to a new division!

Fighters of today are getting bigger and the jump between Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight can give fighters a considerable advantage in battle said light heavyweight prospect Hosea Burton on Raphael Dawkins combat radio.
With the whole world on lockdown, questions have been coming in thick and fast and if the rumors are correct the sanctioning bodies in boxing may be looking to the sea once more to re-classify the Cruiserweight division by making it heavier!

"The 'Strike Cruiser' was a proposal from DARPA to the US Navy in the 1970's only to be succeeded by the Ticonderoga class Cruiser which is still in active service today "


‘Strike-weight’ is still yet to be confirmed said a well-known source and Teddy Atlas refused to comment when asked directly.

Rumors of the cruiserweight being made heavier to 225lbs would make sense 'Dennis Hobson said' because Heavyweights like Hughie Fury and Kash Ali are huge! (PorkycornerTV)

If the rumors are correct the new Strike-weight Division/ Jr Cruiserweight will weigh in at around 200lbs, When asked to comment on how long boxing fans were going to have to wait for the news to be made official Teddy Atlas declined to comment but let's hope we see it happen soon because Teddy is highly respected in the UK and fans would love to see him ringside!

Matchmaker Rick Glaser has also been making waves by talking live to UK boxing fans in lockdown from the USA.
Rick answered quick-fire questions all night on Wednesday with ‘Raphael Dawkins Combat Radio’ Rick gained the respect of fighters and fans alike by mentioning plans for every professional fighter to get a pension when they retire.

Whatever the outcome these are very exciting times during lockdown, times are changing and by the looks of things, so is boxing.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 02:58
by gregregegg
If your adding divisions around there id add 185 and keep 200. mabeyyyy change it to 190 and 210. The gap between light heavy and cruiser is horrific. There is no need for 225 in my opinion, That will just end up being 245lb guys cutting weight. AJ could cut water to 225 probably, He is not to small for heavyweight....

225 would either drain heavyweight division making it super super thin. or be a D grade division people dont care about and anyone good at 225lb div will fight heavyweight kinda like what happens a little bit at cruiser currently but it will be way way worse.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 03:10
by gilgamesh
F*CCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!


NO MORE GODDAMN WEIGHT CLASSES!

Remove some weight classes.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 04:33
by Paci
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2020, 03:10 F*CCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!


NO MORE GODDAMN WEIGHT CLASSES!

Remove some weight classes.
Word

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 04:40
by DrDuke
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2020, 03:10 F*CCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!


NO MORE GODDAMN WEIGHT CLASSES!

Remove some weight classes.
Absolutely.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 05:32
by chinarich
Wasn’t the WBC proposing a super heavyweight division a while back? Neither that, nor this is required...

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 06:12
by Onetimeonly
Taking the weakest weight class and splitting it in two seems like a bad idea. Not to mention anything teddy Atlas backs is likely to be wrong

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 06:51
by Perseus
Boxing already has too many weight divisions.
Adding more is not the way to improve the sport.
Yet another division with 5 to 7 fighters holding world title belts will only give detractors more ammunition to ridicule boxing.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 08:21
by Bard of Boxrec
The first word of the headline of this piece is enough to instantly stop reading. At least my time was saved.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 08:40
by revpickles
gregregegg wrote: 16 May 2020, 02:58 If your adding divisions around there id add 185 and keep 200. mabeyyyy change it to 190 and 210. The gap between light heavy and cruiser is horrific. There is no need for 225 in my opinion, That will just end up being 245lb guys cutting weight. AJ could cut water to 225 probably, He is not to small for heavyweight....

225 would either drain heavyweight division making it super super thin. or be a D grade division people dont care about and anyone good at 225lb div will fight heavyweight kinda like what happens a little bit at cruiser currently but it will be way way worse.

I didn't write if but I kinda agree with what these fellas are trying to do . Putting a weight above cruiserweight would make the history of the cruiser obsolete and I'm all for respect where it's due , my Grandfather fought in WW1 and I didn't know the history behind the weight until I found the article on reddit.
The weight difference nowadays between Heavy and cruiser is massive, some of these heavies are walking round at 20 stone so I think these fellas have a valid point .

Atlas comment are hilarious, i like him he's a fireman!

I wish them all the best of luck, 225lbs might be a bit of a stretch but this has been a long time coming, certain weights i would agree don't need to be around but cruiserweight is real boxing history that needs to be preserved as the weight below the Heavies

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight 225lbs

Posted: 16 May 2020, 11:36
by SportsRatings
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2020, 03:10 F*CCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!


NO MORE GODDAMN WEIGHT CLASSES!

Remove some weight classes.

Seriously. There are weight classes where a fighter could take a moderate-sized dump and make the next weight class down.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight limit 225lbs?

Posted: 16 May 2020, 11:42
by jujigatame
Wilder would be in a different weight class from AJ and Fury now? Who the hell thinks this nonsense is a good idea?

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight limit 225lbs?

Posted: 16 May 2020, 12:26
by ldlamb
I long ago quit fighting the Extra weight Division issue......but whatever they do, the highest weight needs to be heavyweight....not super heavy Or any other silly name....so, in a world of bad ideas...this is one of the least worst.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight limit 225lbs?

Posted: 16 May 2020, 21:06
by gregregegg
jujigatame wrote: 16 May 2020, 11:42 Wilder would be in a different weight class from AJ and Fury now? Who the hell thinks this nonsense is a good idea?
i think AJ could easy make 225lb class. He was 236 vs ruiz.. an 11lb water cut with that much muscel is absolutly nothing. there are People in the UFC that Cut from 210 to 185, just in water weight. a 225 class wold leave fury, Ruiz, and joyce as the only guys in heavyweight... Crazy talk.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight limit 225lbs?

Posted: 16 May 2020, 21:22
by Onetimeonly
gregregegg wrote: 16 May 2020, 21:06
jujigatame wrote: 16 May 2020, 11:42 Wilder would be in a different weight class from AJ and Fury now? Who the hell thinks this nonsense is a good idea?
i think AJ could easy make 225lb class. He was 236 vs ruiz.. an 11lb water cut with that much muscel is absolutly nothing. there are People in the UFC that Cut from 210 to 185, just in water weight. a 225 class wold leave fury, Ruiz, and joyce as the only guys in heavyweight... Crazy talk.
UFC guys mostly have some sort of wrestling background where huge weight cuts are common place for teenagers. Not so much in boxing.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight limit 225lbs?

Posted: 16 May 2020, 22:07
by jujigatame
gregregegg wrote: 16 May 2020, 21:06
jujigatame wrote: 16 May 2020, 11:42 Wilder would be in a different weight class from AJ and Fury now? Who the hell thinks this nonsense is a good idea?
i think AJ could easy make 225lb class. He was 236 vs ruiz.. an 11lb water cut with that much muscel is absolutly nothing. there are People in the UFC that Cut from 210 to 185, just in water weight. a 225 class wold leave fury, Ruiz, and joyce as the only guys in heavyweight... Crazy talk.
Yea AJ could potentially make 225 with a weight cut. It would just split the division with zero benefit.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight limit 225lbs?

Posted: 16 May 2020, 23:52
by ldlamb
There is a special aura to being the champ at Heavyweight or whatever term you would give the biggest weight division.

Guys that are on The edge Of the limit are not going to be exerting themselves to get Down to some lower weight limit if they think they can compete at the Highest division.

Re: Strikeweight/Jr Cruiserweight 200lbs New Cruiserweight limit 225lbs?

Posted: 17 May 2020, 03:09
by candyslim
This subject has been done to death.