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Frankie Burns

Posted: 25 May 2020, 13:29
by Ambling Alp II
He was a little dude that fought a long time ago. Not someone we talk about often, so lets do it.

His biggest win was probably a TKO 13 over Pete Herman.
He was stopped in 5 by Johnny Kilbane, and lost a 20-round decision to Herman. Also lost a 20-round decision to Johnny Coulon.
He had a 20-round draw with Kid Williams, and a 12-round draw with Memphis Pal Moore.

He had a lot of fights with no official decision.
He won three Newspaper decisions over Memphis Pal Moore.
Won two Newspaper decisions over Joe Lynch

Also won a Newspaper decision over Pete Herman and Johnny Coulon.
He lost Newspaper decisions to Johnny Kilbane, Abe Attell and Coulon.
He had a Newspaper Decision draw with Coulon.

So how good was he?

Re: Frankie Burns

Posted: 25 May 2020, 17:31
by Wee Tommy
Ambling Alp II wrote: 25 May 2020, 13:29 He was a little dude that fought a long time ago. Not someone we talk about often, so lets do it.

His biggest win was probably a TKO 13 over Pete Herman.
He was stopped in 5 by Johnny Kilbane, and lost a 20-round decision to Herman. Also lost a 20-round decision to Johnny Coulon.
He had a 20-round draw with Kid Williams, and a 12-round draw with Memphis Pal Moore.

He had a lot of fights with no official decision.
He won three Newspaper decisions over Memphis Pal Moore.
Won two Newspaper decisions over Joe Lynch

Also won a Newspaper decision over Pete Herman and Johnny Coulon.
He lost Newspaper decisions to Johnny Kilbane, Abe Attell and Coulon.
He had a Newspaper Decision draw with Coulon.

So how good was he?
Good enough to beat Pete Herman but not Abe Attell.

Re: Frankie Burns

Posted: 25 May 2020, 19:23
by Seamus
I've been singing his praises for some time. Only man to stop Pete Herman in 83 bouts. I think him and Jimmy Leto could be the two best fighters not in the IBHOF.

Re: Frankie Burns

Posted: 27 May 2020, 08:36
by Ambling Alp II
One gray area is the Newspaper decisions (I hate those). He had a lot of them. How much credit should a guy get for those?