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Posted: **24 Jun 2020, 18:39**

Who wins, how and why, both in their prime?

Posted: **24 Jun 2020, 18:51**

Move to mythical matchups.

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 09:49**

oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jun 2020, 18:51 Move to mythical matchups.

Oh yeah I need to do that!!..how do you do it though?

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 10:42**

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 09:49
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Jun 2020, 18:51 Move to mythical matchups.
Oh yeah I need to do that!!..how do you do it though?

ask a MOD I guess.

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 11:24**

I don't think we have MODs anymore.

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 13:51**

Witherspoon had a clever defence and a good jab which would stand him in good stead against the big punching Shavers.
Shavers had stamina issues.

Witherspoon by late stoppage or points.

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 15:21**

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 13:51 Witherspoon had a clever defence and a good jab which would stand him in good stead against the big punching Shavers.
Shavers had stamina issues.

Witherspoon by late stoppage or points.

Agreed, and Tim had the chin to withstand anything Shavers threw at him.

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 16:09**

Bonecrusher Smith would strongly disagree.

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 16:13**

Witherspoon was on the other level in comparison to Shavers. Although Shavers' clean punch could easly provide lights out for Tim. Anyway, Witherspoon had enough skills and power to outbox and KO Shavers. I'd pick Tim to score a KO.

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 16:44**

DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 16:13 Witherspoon was on the other level in comparison to Shavers. Although Shavers' clean punch could easly provide lights out for Tim. Anyway, Witherspoon had enough skills and power to outbox and KO Shavers. I'd pick Tim to score a KO.

Shavers wasn't that bad. He'd have a fair shot of stopping Tim.

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 18:28**

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 16:44
DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 16:13 Witherspoon was on the other level in comparison to Shavers. Although Shavers' clean punch could easly provide lights out for Tim. Anyway, Witherspoon had enough skills and power to outbox and KO Shavers. I'd pick Tim to score a KO.
Shavers wasn't that bad. He'd have a fair shot of stopping Tim.

I didn't want to describe him as particularly bad and he would have that shot indeed, but overall he clearly wasn't in the Witherspoon's class, that's my point.

Posted: **25 Jun 2020, 19:20**

DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 18:28
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 16:44

Shavers wasn't that bad. He'd have a fair shot of stopping Tim.
I didn't want to describe him as particularly bad and he would have that shot indeed, but overall he clearly wasn't in the Witherspoon's class, that's my point.

I don't think it's that clear. The Shavers that faced Holmes in the second fight was far better than the one who lost to Lyle.

Posted: **26 Jun 2020, 04:35**

oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 19:20
DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 18:28

I didn't want to describe him as particularly bad and he would have that shot indeed, but overall he clearly wasn't in the Witherspoon's class, that's my point.
I don't think it's that clear. The Shavers that faced Holmes in the second fight was far better than the one who lost to Lyle.

Shavers' success in the second Holmes fight was him finally getting to Holmes, but nothing more really, Earnie got outboxed there again.

Posted: **26 Jun 2020, 07:34**

Terrible Tim by decision or late round stoppage

Btw Antonio, please double check to post the Mythical fight match up by either clicking the Mythical Fight Match up or clicking the jump to where you could scroll down to Mythical Fight.

Posted: **26 Jun 2020, 12:50**

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 16:09 Bonecrusher Smith would strongly disagree.

That was a different Tim.When they fought the first time, Terrible Tim shutout Bonecrusher.

Posted: **26 Jun 2020, 13:41**

Tim far too much of a cute defense and wins inside 10. Always a chance with shavers but tim a confident pick for me.

Posted: **26 Jun 2020, 16:14**

DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 04:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 19:20

I don't think it's that clear. The Shavers that faced Holmes in the second fight was far better than the one who lost to Lyle.
Shavers' success in the second Holmes fight was him finally getting to Holmes, but nothing more really, Earnie got outboxed there again.

Witherspoon ain't no Larry Holmes.

Posted: **26 Jun 2020, 16:19**

Nile4000 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 12:50
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 16:09 Bonecrusher Smith would strongly disagree.
That was a different Tim.When they fought the first time, Terrible Tim shutout Bonecrusher.

You could just as easily say that was a different Smith.
If shavers lands one of his bombs, Witherspoon would be in serious trouble.

Posted: **26 Jun 2020, 17:37**

oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 16:14
DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 04:35

Shavers' success in the second Holmes fight was him finally getting to Holmes, but nothing more really, Earnie got outboxed there again.
Witherspoon ain't no Larry Holmes.

Of course, he isn't. But he even had a better overall performance against Holmes in comparison to Shavers.

Posted: **26 Jun 2020, 17:51**

DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 17:37
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 16:14

Witherspoon ain't no Larry Holmes.
Of course, he isn't. But he even had a better overall performance against Holmes in comparison to Shavers.

Holmes was 34 when he faced spoon and 30 (prime) when he met Shavers. In addition, "styles." Can't triangulate sir.

Posted: **28 Jun 2020, 21:38**

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 16:19
Nile4000 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 12:50

That was a different Tim.When they fought the first time, Terrible Tim shutout Bonecrusher.
You could just as easily say that was a different Smith.
If shavers lands one of his bombs, Witherspoon would be in serious trouble.

Witherspoon could take a real good shot. Earnie wasn't flooring everybody.

Posted: **01 Jul 2020, 16:46**

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 16:09 Bonecrusher Smith would strongly disagree.

Rumors are he lost on purpose..he wanted out of his contract with DK.

Posted: **02 Jul 2020, 06:33**

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑01 Jul 2020, 16:46
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑25 Jun 2020, 16:09 Bonecrusher Smith would strongly disagree.
Rumors are he lost on purpose..he wanted out of his contract with DK.

Nonsense. He may have been unprepared, as he often wasn't, but he was hurt from the first punch.

Smith just rolled over him, similar to what he done to Weaver.

Posted: **02 Jul 2020, 10:59**

Nile4000 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2020, 21:38
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 16:19

You could just as easily say that was a different Smith.
If shavers lands one of his bombs, Witherspoon would be in serious trouble.
Witherspoon could take a real good shot. Earnie wasn't flooring everybody.

Your right, Shavers wasn't flooring everyone; nobody does. Occasionally he got out boxed, didn't finish the guy off, or was nailed himself before he could nail the other guy.
However, Shavers was a much harder puncher than Smith. Maybe Witherspoon survives if it was a the end of the round or something; Shavers was not a great finisher.

However, if Shavers lands one of his haymakers, Witherspoon would be in big trouble.

Posted: **02 Jul 2020, 13:46**

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑02 Jul 2020, 10:59
Nile4000 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2020, 21:38

Witherspoon could take a real good shot. Earnie wasn't flooring everybody.
Your right, Shavers wasn't flooring everyone; nobody does. Occasionally he got out boxed, didn't finish the guy off, or was nailed himself before he could nail the other guy.
However, Shavers was a much harder puncher than Smith. Maybe Witherspoon survives if it was a the end of the round or something; Shavers was not a great finisher.

However, if Shavers lands one of his haymakers, Witherspoon would be in big trouble.

I could see Tim in trouble in the right circumstances, like maybe post-Smith. But prime Tim, I think could deal.

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