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Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 25 Jun 2020, 19:31
by THEBUTCH
The question of who would have won a contest between these two will rumble on for years, but if you was marooned on a desert island and you could only choose between Carl Froch or Joe calzaghe's entire career to watch for the rest of your days....whose would you pick ?
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 02:33
by Steveh583
Carl's unquestionably. In fact, I'm gonna watch the Pascal fight later
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 02:46
by Noxy
Easy, Froch.
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 02:55
by margaret thatcher
Joe, more boxing to watch
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 03:00
by bigjack
Calzaghe for me.
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 04:00
by Isaax
Froch's fights all looked the same pretty much
Joe was hot and cold, many fights were awful to watch but some sensational (Eubank, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy, Kessler)
Tough one. Maybe Froch for the earlier domestic dust-ups with Barney, Dodson, Magee, Reid & Hague being fun with that low-slung left he had and overuse of the out of range right uppercut
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 04:44
by DrDuke
Froch would win in a close, action-packed fight. Calzaghe was faster, more polished and agile, but Froch would impose a fight and eventually outfight Calzaghe. Froch was better in going toe-to-toe. He was harsher. Calzaghe was very good from a technical side, but he wasn't truly elusive. Ward's elusiveness and spoiling skills were necessary to deal with Froch, otherwise Carl would impose a fight and get better there.
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 04:49
by Isaax
Joe found his elusions later in the career, against Lacy, Bika, Kessler & RJJ when he relaxed alot more with arms hanging and relied on natural ability for defence instead of maintaining shape
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 04:50
by Isaax
He was actually incredibly good in those fights at evading without ducking low, running or grabbing like Ward would
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 05:14
by Coco
In fairness both were real entertaining fighters to watch.
JC had more off nights, mainly because of hand trouble, and many of his best wins were quite one sided.
Looking at Froch against Groves, Pascal and esp Taylor they were absolute edge of your seat stuff.
I feel those fights if it had been JC fighting them would have been quite one sided.
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 06:43
by cormack
FRoch
Because he was more perilous , risking being stopped but also some good KO and more exciting fights .
Calzaghe has a better boxing brain and skill set and maybe isnt quite as exciting .
I am a fan of both and respect what each has achieved in a different fashion , plus they had slightly different eras .
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 06:44
by cormack
DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 04:44
Froch would win in a close, action-packed fight. Calzaghe was faster, more polished and agile, but Froch would impose a fight and eventually outfight Calzaghe. Froch was better in going toe-to-toe. He was harsher. Calzaghe was very good from a technical side, but he wasn't truly elusive. Ward's elusiveness and spoiling skills were necessary to deal with Froch, otherwise Carl would impose a fight and get better there.
you did read the question ?
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 06:48
by banjo
Froch
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 08:27
by DrDuke
stevec@france wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 06:44
DrDuke wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 04:44
Froch would win in a close, action-packed fight. Calzaghe was faster, more polished and agile, but Froch would impose a fight and eventually outfight Calzaghe. Froch was better in going toe-to-toe. He was harsher. Calzaghe was very good from a technical side, but he wasn't truly elusive. Ward's elusiveness and spoiling skills were necessary to deal with Froch, otherwise Carl would impose a fight and get better there.
you did read the question ?
The question had a too obvious answer, so I sent the thread to a more debatable niche.
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 08:55
by PredatorHayds
Froch for me.
The Taylor fight is one of my favourite fights. Brings back some good memories.
Being Welsh I loved Calzaghe. What a journey he took me on. But there’s too many fights I don’t really fancy watching again.
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 09:21
by forcefraser
Calzaghe v Pudwell will also be a favourite of mine
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 09:31
by Terminator666
When I read the first part- I thought it was going to be which one you’d rather be stuck on a desert island with
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 09:57
by Grilling Machine
Isaax wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 04:00overuse of the out of range right uppercut
The Cobra! There's no doubt his career was more entertaining in that smoke-his-boots era, but it's like people forget Calzaghe-Mitchell and Joe's earlier highlights.
Terminator666 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 09:31When I read the first part- I thought it was going to be which one you’d rather be stuck on a desert island with
Froch, to cut down the trees for the raft.
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 10:08
by Delta Jay
Terminator666 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 09:31
When I read the first part- I thought it was going to be which one you’d rather be stuck on a desert island with
If I was stuck on a desert island with Carl Froch and a tin of beans, I’d eat Carl Froch and talk to the tin of beans.
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 10:15
by Terminator666
Delta Jay wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 10:08
Terminator666 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 09:31
When I read the first part- I thought it was going to be which one you’d rather be stuck on a desert island with
If I was stuck on a desert island with Carl Froch and a tin of beans, I’d eat Carl Froch and talk to the tin of beans.
Yeah I’d definitely rather be stuck with JC
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 10:19
by Isaax
Joe's fights were mostly on Eurosport pre-97, occasionally on tape delay on BBC2 at 11:30pm on a Wednesday night
Froch was a BBC1 live or Sky Sports main eventer in his early career
With Joe's talent he was so wasted, even the Reid grudge match was six years into his career. He had the talent to be a star in his first year like Benn was in 87, Stateside they'd of loved his power and dazzle and looks in 95-96
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 10:25
by Grilling Machine
Terminator666 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 10:15Yeah I’d definitely rather be stuck with JC
Froch'd eat all the food in front of you while telling you how good he was at finding it. Nobody wants to see Andre Ward scavenge, apparently.
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 11:46
by ALI
forcefraser wrote: ↑26 Jun 2020, 09:21
Calzaghe v Pudwell will also be a favourite of mine
The Mcyntire fight is one of my personal favourites, the way in which he broke him down, oh and that uppercut he put him away with was sheer class
Re: Froch or Calzaghe...but not who's best !
Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 23:35
by SticknMove
It's a straight forward question.... would you prefer to watch a repeat of Calzaghe's fights or Froch's fights. Froch for me in all honesty.
