Claiming Fury's gloves were loaded during their last fight and that DW has a blunt force injury to his head from the fight which couldn't possibly have been caused by a fist.
He's not presented any evidence. Fury has responded, highlighting that DW's representative was there during the entire time his hands were wrapped and inspected them himself.
Seems a ridiculous claim to make, but my question is: is it actually possible nowadays with the scrutiny in force?
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 08:32
by Enlightened-One
The sheer volume of excuses I’ve read from Team Wilder or his die-hard fans has gone beyond the point of being funny and is now rather tiresome.
None of these conspiracies have any legitimacy about them.
I think I’d prefer to ignore them, because they’re simply meaningless unsubstantiated excuses and lies.
It’s frivolously unimportant drivel.
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 08:36
by vidal
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 08:32
The sheer volume of excuses I’ve read from Team Wilder or his die-hard fans has gone beyond the point of being funny and is now rather tiresome.
None of these conspiracies have any legitimacy about them.
I think I’d prefer to ignore them, because they’re simply meaningless unsubstantiated excuses and lies.
It’s frivolously unimportant drivel.
Indeed, but what frustrates me, is that these things tend to gather traction over time......... in years to come, the fanciful notion that Fury had horse shoes in his gloves (remember the Laurel & Hardy film?) could be instilled as historic fact.
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 08:39
by dookus
I think what these excuses reveal is how Wilder really feels about his chances in the third fight
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 09:59
by Cent0089
Fury has gloves loaded with his fists. That is reasom why he won the fight IMO
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 10:06
by IRONFIST
Dear oh dear this is not a good look for the Wilder's. It's like Haye and his toe excuse.
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 12:33
by jamesmcdonnell
vidal wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 08:22
Claiming Fury's gloves were loaded during their last fight and that DW has a blunt force injury to his head from the fight which couldn't possibly have been caused by a fist.
He's not presented any evidence. Fury has responded, highlighting that DW's representative was there during the entire time his hands were wrapped and inspected them himself.
Seems a ridiculous claim to make, but my question is: is it actually possible nowadays with the scrutiny in force?
Yeah, getting punched up like that does tend to cause trauma to the head.
It's pretty pathetic stuff, but I guess they're trying to build the rematch up, where I expect Wilder to get smoked.
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 12:46
by Coco
I believe that his shorts were too heavy is the most valid excuse
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 12:51
by gilgamesh
All the excuses point to one very crucial thing.
He has no chance in the 3rd fight because he's not being honest with himself about what happened.
If he were saying "I need to mix up my strategy. I need to work on how I fight him. I need to improve" he'd possibly have a shot. Instead he's acting as if it was a conspiracy against him, and that's the only reason he lost.
His denial will see him come into the 3rd bout with no improvements, and therefore very little chance.
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 13:10
by bigjack
Looks like Tyson has broken him mentally now,I'm sure if he admitted why he lost then it would be easier to correct the isues and make a rematch competetive, possibly
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 15:28
by Thomastearns
gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 12:51
All the excuses point to one very crucial thing.
He has no chance in the 3rd fight because he's not being honest with himself about what happened.
If he were saying "I need to mix up my strategy. I need to work on how I fight him. I need to improve" he'd possibly have a shot. Instead he's acting as if it was a conspiracy against him, and that's the only reason he lost.
His denial will see him come into the 3rd bout with no improvements, and therefore very little chance.
I hope you're wrong, but signs aren't good for Wilder.
Hand wraps will definitely be observed better next time given Fury's record, and testing should also be maxed.
The big question is around Wilders confidence. Can he react like a champion, or is he beaten already?
He needs to remember there's no need to panic here.
No need at all. It's all Fury's to lose now. If Fury loses, he loses big. Really big.
Wilder will always have that right hand, and that means as much chance as in any previous fight for 'lose rounds win fights Wilder'.
And this time, please forget all that pre fight nonsense. Save it for afters.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 12:51
All the excuses point to one very crucial thing.
He has no chance in the 3rd fight because he's not being honest with himself about what happened.
If he were saying "I need to mix up my strategy. I need to work on how I fight him. I need to improve" he'd possibly have a shot. Instead he's acting as if it was a conspiracy against him, and that's the only reason he lost.
His denial will see him come into the 3rd bout with no improvements, and therefore very little chance.
I hope you're wrong, but signs aren't good for Wilder.
Hand wraps will definitely be observed better next time given Fury's record, and testing should also be maxed.
The big question is around Wilders confidence. Can he react like a champion, or is he beaten already?
He needs to remember there's no need to panic here.
No need at all. It's all Fury's to lose now. If Fury loses, he loses big. Really big.
Wilder will always have that right hand, and that means as much chance as in any previous fight for 'lose rounds win fights Wilder'.
And this time, please forget all that pre fight nonsense. Save it for afters.
I'm not wrong. He'll have that same right hand puncher's chance again, and nothing more.
His only prayer is if Fury takes it for granted that he ain't sh*t, and is lazy with his training. If Fury comes in just as ready as he was for the 2nd fight. He's f*cked.
gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 12:51
All the excuses point to one very crucial thing.
He has no chance in the 3rd fight because he's not being honest with himself about what happened.
If he were saying "I need to mix up my strategy. I need to work on how I fight him. I need to improve" he'd possibly have a shot. Instead he's acting as if it was a conspiracy against him, and that's the only reason he lost.
His denial will see him come into the 3rd bout with no improvements, and therefore very little chance.
I hope you're wrong, but signs aren't good for Wilder.
Hand wraps will definitely be observed better next time given Fury's record, and testing should also be maxed.
The big question is around Wilders confidence. Can he react like a champion, or is he beaten already?
He needs to remember there's no need to panic here.
No need at all. It's all Fury's to lose now. If Fury loses, he loses big. Really big.
Wilder will always have that right hand, and that means as much chance as in any previous fight for 'lose rounds win fights Wilder'.
And this time, please forget all that pre fight nonsense. Save it for afters.
"Hand wraps will definitely be observed better next time given Fury's record"
What exactly is his record? Has he ever been caught using illegal wraps? He's been accused once as far as I'm aware and that's by a gobshite and his flat earth follwers.
I highly doubt the governing bodies will be any more stringent then they normally are.
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 15:47
by gilgamesh
Yeah I never heard of Fury's hands being wrapped by any credible source.
And given the way he punches, I'd sure be surprised to hear his hands are wrapped. For god's sake if he's using loaded handwraps the guy must punch like Malignaggi
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 17:17
by jenko21
gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 15:47
Yeah I never heard of Fury's hands being wrapped by any credible source.
And given the way he punches, I'd sure be surprised to hear his hands are wrapped. For god's sake if he's using loaded handwraps the guy must punch like Malignaggi
It's just getting beyond ridiculous now, but you have to let the idiots have an opinion I suppose.
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 19:22
by lazboy
Let’s not ignore the Autopsy revelation here. A pre-corpse and pre-costume Wilder beats Fury.
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 19:27
by margaret thatcher
Ah, so Wilder was a corpse, of course he lost. He will do better when he's actually alive for the third fight!
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 20:35
by jenko21
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 19:27
Ah, so Wilder was a corpse, of course he lost. He will do better when he's actually alive for the third fight!
Knowing wilder he'll do worse and blame it on his heart beating at 100bpm
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 00:55
by Syntax Error
IRONFIST wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 10:06
Dear oh dear this is not a good look for the Wilder's. It's like Haye and his toe excuse.
To be fair, Haye shut up about his toe soon after the Wladimir fight, possibly due to acute embarrassment.
The condition of the gloves worn by Tyson Fury has been a talking point ever since the Briton defeated Deontay Wilder in their high-profile Las Vegas rematch.
Fury dominated and stopped Wilder in seven rounds at the MGM Grand, prompting many conspiracy theories from supporters of Wilder.
From the gloves in the first fight being floppy to the return being loaded, Fury has been forced to react to the trolling ever since.
In a recent Instagram response, Fury called the allegations ‘bulls—‘ and stated there was nothing but mean fists inside the wraps.
Now, a video has been posted by Fury’s UK TV network in BT Sport. It clearly shows Wilder’s trainer Jay Deas watching every move backstage.
If anything untoward was going on, surely Deas would have noticed before leaving Fury’s side.
The World Boxing Council, who sanctioned the contest, has since aired their views through President Mauricio Sulaiman.
“It’s ridiculous. It’s difficult to understand,” Sulaiman told Sky Sports. “I was present in both fights, I was in the dressing room, in both fights. Both Wilder and Fury dressing room.
“One was in California, the other one was in Nevada. In both cases, there were at least three inspectors, in each dressing room.
“I was there before and after the fight. I saw the hand wraps. And I saw them with the gloves. I was in the ring when they came into the ring, and I was sitting right there during the fight.
“At no moment, in either fight, I saw anything that would look suspicious whatsoever. After the fight, they take off the gloves, they are handed to the commission.”
He concluded: “It’s very sad. Because to try and take away something from a huge victory, one of the greatest nights of the sport in the century, to try and put a blemish on that event, is so irresponsible. So stupid.
“It should not be given any consideration.”
Re: Wilder's brother is now at it.... glovegate
Posted: 03 Jul 2020, 08:18
by Winter king
Wilder says thing like I want to go out on my shield but cannot take it like a.man. Cotto was actually wronged and bitched waaaay less about it because he knew he can win in the rematch and its obvious Wilder doesnt beleive he has a fair chance so he makes up the most pathetic random shit ever.
