Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 15:47
15 rounds, the 77-78 version of Ali vs the 85-86 version of William's, who wins?
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Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
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Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 15:59
Ali beats Williams by decision, and that's the truth.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 16:07
Even if he is post-prime like 1978, Ali would still win against Carl.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 16:23
Ali pts
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 16:46
Probably Williams would win. It could be about the same fight as Williams-Holmes, where Carl got robbed. However, Williams could tire in the second half of the bout and blow the ending, maybe even get caught there.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 17:17
Ali would box circles around Williams. No doubt.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 18:41
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 20:47
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 21:07
Manilla was in 1975, he still had time.
He still won against good fighters after Manilla; Jimmy Young, Norton, Shavers etc.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 21:28
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 21:28
Ken Norton was robbed terribly in their 3rd bout.Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 21:07Manilla was in 1975, he still had time.
He still won against good fighters after Manilla; Jimmy Young, Norton, Shavers etc.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 21:45
C'mon man, that wasn't Ali. Everyone knows he left much of himself in the ring vs Frazier in the Phillipines.Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 21:07Manilla was in 1975, he still had time.
He still won against good fighters after Manilla; Jimmy Young, Norton, Shavers etc.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 21:46
It was razor close. I had it a draw most of the times I watched it.gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 21:28Ken Norton was robbed terribly in their 3rd bout.Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 21:07
Manilla was in 1975, he still had time.
He still won against good fighters after Manilla; Jimmy Young, Norton, Shavers etc.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 21:50
True, what I meant that he still had the ability to win against very good fighters after Manilla.oogiebe wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 21:45C'mon man, that wasn't Ali. Everyone knows he left much of himself in the ring vs Frazier in the Phillipines.Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 21:07
Manilla was in 1975, he still had time.
He still won against good fighters after Manilla; Jimmy Young, Norton, Shavers etc.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 21:52
Fair point.Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 21:50True, what I meant that he still had the ability to win against very good fighters after Manilla.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 21:58
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 22:16
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 22:20
Yeah, but I'm right on this one though
You could argue the margin, but it's either 9 rounds to 6 Norton, 8 rounds to 7 Norton or 10 to 5 Norton. Ali didn't win.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 22:36
Funny thing is, it was UD, not even SD or MD .
Either way, I think Ali vs. Norton 3 was close, and I wouldn't complain if it was a draw.
.Either way, I think Ali vs. Norton 3 was close, and I wouldn't complain if it was a draw.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 22:46
Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 22:36 Funny thing is, it was UD, not even SD or MD
Either way, I think Ali vs. Norton 3 was close, and I wouldn't complain if it was a draw.
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 23:54
Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2020, 22:36 Funny thing is, it was UD, not even SD or MD
Either way, I think Ali vs. Norton 3 was close, and I wouldn't complain if it was a draw.
Exactly right.Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 01 Jul 2020, 04:27
Re: Carl Williams vs Muhammad Ali
Posted: 01 Jul 2020, 09:53