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Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 17:19
by margaret thatcher
Ricards Boletniks was a 4-3-1 then 11-5-1 and also a journeyman, but now become something of a fringe contender at 175, on a good run which seen him beat an 18-0 Russian and flatten Steve Ward in 1 round and make the cocaine contract semis

Which dudes turned their form around?

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 17:23
by margaret thatcher

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 17:47
by Bladder
Guess Steve Robinson is a prime example of this.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 17:48
by Deserter
Steve Robinson. Repeat ad infinitum. :TU:

Special shout-out as well for Freddie Pendleton and Najib Daho.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 17:53
by ShadrachSimmo
The late Chris Edwards springs to mind. Very much a journeyman but became a 2 weight British champ and beat a future world champion in a young Jamie McDonnell.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 19:08
by world ranked
Orlando Salido, Gamaliel Diaz

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 21:38
by rio
Johnny Nelson

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 07 Jul 2020, 22:55
by LGilsenan1
In terms of current fighters aiming to turn it around, I’d guess Ben Fields has a good chance of turning his career around, beat some decent lads and became something of a boogeyman a few fights ago, lost to Lee Appleyard in a competitive fight last time out but I like the look of Fields when he puts it together.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 00:46
by oogiebe
Jimmy Braddock.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 01:30
by black panther
Quirino Garcia Lost his first 18 fights then went on to become a contender and beat some former world champs:

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/3890


His contemporary David Destroyer Lopez started out as a 15-10 light heavy but after dropping down to 154lbs went 15-2 and challenged for a world title:

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/42862

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 01:50
by veriton
Lee Swaby racked up a few losses on the road before getting with Dennis Hobson and ended up challenging for the British cruiser title

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 02:00
by Old bones Ian
Kelvin Seabrooks was 22-13 when winning the IBF Bantamweight title
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/1298

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 02:05
by Old bones Ian
For me one of the biggest upsets ever in the UK was Steve Little 21-13-2 outpointing Michael Nunn for the WBA Supermiddle Title.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 03:43
by bennie
Hughroy Currie.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 05:13
by My Name Is Earl
Dennis Andries.....Racked up a stack of defeats before eventually winning the British title. Went on to win a world title via SD
in one of the worst fights in history, against one of the worst defending champions in history in JB Williamson.

Gutteridge memorably summed it up saying "the JB stands for Just Bad and he isn't lying" :D

Andries' popularity didn't improve when he mullered the much loved Tony Sibson in his first defence, but he went on
to contest some big night fights. Like Gary Mason, he'll probably be best remembered for that crushing defeat by Hearns.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 09:27
by Coco
black panther wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 01:30 Quirino Garcia Lost his first 18 fights then went on to become a contender and beat some former world champs:

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/3890


His contemporary David Destroyer Lopez started out as a 15-10 light heavy but after dropping down to 154lbs went 15-2 and challenged for a world title:

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/42862
For me Garcia is the best example, I heard he was proper poor, homeless, living in a car, often without food and was still fighting.
Apparently after that the gym owner let him sleep in the gym, fed him etc and it turned his career around.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 09:31
by Coco
Freddie Pendleton too.

There are a lot of fighters like him who picked up a lot of losses fighting against top class boys at short notice.
However they were still regarded as dangermen and only lost to prospects.
Someone like Garcia was a no hoper

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 12:43
by Steveh583
Surely journeymen don't turn it around. That's the point. Is a fighter who has lost a few fights or has an even win/loss ratio considered a journeyman now?

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 12:46
by margaret thatcher
Of course someone can turn it around

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 14:17
by Glass Joe
Not a Journey man but Tevin Farmer was 7-4-1 before he went on his world champion run

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 15:39
by MRPLOW182
Love these stories. Whilst not exactly journeyman....

Freddie Pendleton, 13-12-1 world champ
Sammy Fuentes 25-13-1 world champ
Steve Robinson 13-9-1 world champ
Paul silky Jones 14-7-1 world champ
Chris Saunders 9-16-1 British champ
Henry Armstrong 1-4 ATG
Del Bryan 18-7-1 British champ
Orlando Salido 11-7-1 world champ
Paul Burke 9-6-2 Commonwealth champ

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 16:07
by Old bones Ian
MRPLOW182 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 15:39 Love these stories. Whilst not exactly journeyman....

Freddie Pendleton, 13-12-1 world champ
Sammy Fuentes 25-13-1 world champ
Steve Robinson 13-9-1 world champ
Paul silky Jones 14-7-1 world champ
Chris Saunders 9-16-1 British champ
Henry Armstrong 1-4 ATG
Del Bryan 18-7-1 British champ
Orlando Salido 11-7-1 world champ
Paul Burke 9-6-2 Commonwealth champ
I remember Sammy Fuentes being brought over here to face Andreas Panayi, it went ok for Andreas for the first couple of rounds, then Sammy started to land in the 3rd round before taking out Andreas in the 4th.

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 16:19
by MRPLOW182
Yeah he could punch like

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 08 Jul 2020, 16:34
by Espada
MRPLOW182 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2020, 15:39 Love these stories. Whilst not exactly journeyman....

Freddie Pendleton, 13-12-1 world champ
Sammy Fuentes 25-13-1 world champ
Steve Robinson 13-9-1 world champ
Paul silky Jones 14-7-1 world champ
Chris Saunders 9-16-1 British champ
Henry Armstrong 1-4 ATG
Del Bryan 18-7-1 British champ
Orlando Salido 11-7-1 world champ
Paul Burke 9-6-2 Commonwealth champ
Remember all these guys and saw lots of their fights
Others
Sugar gibarlaru became British champ

Marcos villiasanna although not a fully journeyman had 4 or 5 shots at the world title and not expected to win

Re: Journeymen who turned it around

Posted: 12 Jul 2020, 05:38
by rob h
I remember Jimmy Vincent going on a decent run before fighting Barnes for the British Title. Tough bloke.