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Seems likely, what happens

Teo wins imo, too much honduran american beastliness for mr patty cake

From what we've seen from both for the moment, Teo looked good, fast and hard-hitting, but Loma looked special, smarter and slicker. I'd pick Loma.

I doubt it happens, if it does I'll take Lopez.

A 50/50 fight in my mind at this point. I'd favor Lomachenko by the slightest of margins.

Not understanding how Lopez is favoured or even how this is an even contest. Loma has shown us a special array of skills whereas
Lopez has shown us impressive power. If Lopez wins it should be considered a huge achievement and upset.

Of course I favour Lomachenko as surely he has come across formidable punchers in his boxing career including in the amateurs.

You are probably not a big fan of Lomachenko

It's funny there were actually who thought Commey would beat Lopez. Nobody thinks or thought before that fight that Commey would beat Loma but now Lopez can?

Not really sure what you mean? Teo is obviously far better than Commey...it can of course be true that Loma would beat Commey but lose to Teo

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 07:55 Not really sure what you mean? Teo is obviously far better than Commey...

Yeah we say that after the fact but a lot of people were picking Commey. Why does one fight change the perspective especially if someone picked a lesser fighter to beat him but now he can handle great fighters when"you" didn't even think he could beat Comney.

We saw that Teo is way better , why would we still act like it's not clear? Of course our views should evolve as we get more info

Hindsight is essential to being objective. I didn't think commey was beating Lopez anyway. The wipe out was surprising. It's a better and more impressive win than anything loma has done in a few years.

I have it 50/50. I would cheer for Lomachenko, he is one of my favorite fighters. If he is still at prime, he should handle Lopez. If he is not, it is going to be harsh night Btw if Lomachenko can win this, Loma - Berchelt is my dream fight two of my favorites

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 08:51 Hindsight is essential to being objective. I didn't think commey was beating Lopez anyway. The wipe out was surprising. It's a better and more impressive win than anything loma has done in a few years.

I don't think hindsight is essential to being objective. Hindsight allows you back out of your original opinion after the fact. I value most people opinion prior to the fight because of course we all know the result. I take consideration of opinion prior to the fight. Being impressive against other opp also doesn't equate to relevance when step up in level.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 08:01 We saw that Teo is way better , why would we still act like it's not clear? Of course our views should evolve as we get more info

Views change because of hindsight which isn't a real opinion. A real opinion comes before a fight not after the fact. Of course everyone think Lopez was the goods now because of result there's no real view in that.

lazboy wrote: ↑11 Jul 2020, 22:10 Not understanding how Lopez is favoured or even how this is an even contest. Loma has shown us a special array of skills whereas
Lopez has shown us impressive power. If Lopez wins it should be considered a huge achievement and upset.

Of course I favour Lomachenko as surely he has come across formidable punchers in his boxing career including in the amateurs.

Seems like things are changing real fast nowadays, everywhere. One minute the consensus was that it was too soon for Lopez to be for stepping in with the legend that is Lomachenko, but then after 2 fights (Campbell and Commey) the Swingometer seems to have now swung the other way.

Of course form matters, of course youth matters, but Lomachenko is far from finished. Let's keep in mind that so far they've both been operating on entirely different levels resume wise.

I'm expecting Lopez to get the most valuable boxing lesson of his life when they eventually meet. If Lopez doesn't get his heart broken, it will do him a ton of good for the future - as 'uncle Bob' will no doubt be hoping.

world ranked wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 13:20

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 08:51 Hindsight is essential to being objective. I didn't think commey was beating Lopez anyway. The wipe out was surprising. It's a better and more impressive win than anything loma has done in a few years.

I don't think hindsight is essential to being objective. Hindsight allows you back out of your original opinion after the fact. I value most people opinion prior to the fight because of course we all know the result. I take consideration of opinion prior to the fight. Being impressive against other opp also doesn't equate to relevance when step up in level.

So acknowledging you were wrong is bad? You should just carry on like every opinion you had was correct?

You're the one that brought up the other opposition.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 16:00

world ranked wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 13:20

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 08:51 Hindsight is essential to being objective. I didn't think commey was beating Lopez anyway. The wipe out was surprising. It's a better and more impressive win than anything loma has done in a few years.

I don't think hindsight is essential to being objective. Hindsight allows you back out of your original opinion after the fact. I value most people opinion prior to the fight because of course we all know the result. I take consideration of opinion prior to the fight. Being impressive against other opp also doesn't equate to relevance when step up in level.

So acknowledging you were wrong is bad? You should just carry on like every opinion you had was correct?

You're the one that brought up the other opposition.

We all have incorrect opinions. Some tend to not acknowledged them. We can be wrong but not all want to accept the fact they were. I tend to question people who tend ignore the fact that original opinion was incorrect.

I have no idea what you're talking about. If loma schools Lopez I will take that into account heading into their next fight. I won't pretend Lopez won because I picked him.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 16:20 I have no idea what you're talking about. If loma schools Lopez I will take that into account heading into their next fight. I won't pretend Lopez won because I picked him.

Maybe true but a lot people will dismiss the loser even if they pick him. There will be the Lopez hadn't done anything to suggest he can beat Loma if he lose. Or it will Loma past his prime if he loses and downplay there wrong assesment. This is just a general thought.

your method makes no sense bruh, going by your thoughts our views on a fighter can never ever change

let's say i think commey is better than teo

they fight and teo destroys him

well seems like then i shud look at that very clear evidence and hence now believe teo is better than commey

but according to you we can't do that. and therefore we cant change our view going ahead to the next fight, or the one after that, or the one after that


do you still think ohara is better than josh taylor or forrest better than takam?

Besides im pretty sure Teo was a clear favourite vs Commey anyway? i for one have never picked against him and wont now

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 18:03 your method makes no sense bruh, going by your thoughts our views on a fighter can never ever change

let's say i think commey is better than teo

they fight and teo destroys him

well seems like then i shud look at that very clear evidence and hence now believe teo is better than commey

but according to you we can't do that. and therefore we cant change our view going ahead to the next fight, or the one after that, or the one after that


do you still think ohara is better than josh taylor or forrest better than takam?

I never thought Ohara was better than Taylor but your Forrest point I was clearly wrong about. But the difference is I'm not picking Takam to beat let say Joseph Parker after I incorrectly picked Forrest over him. You see I'm not acting like I knew Takam was the goods now to beat Parker that's what I seeing going on. How can I pick a lower level to beat him then switch and bascially say he will beat the best in the division. I respect the move you pulled even though u got the Ohara part wrong.

world ranked wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 18:11

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Jul 2020, 18:03 your method makes no sense bruh, going by your thoughts our views on a fighter can never ever change

let's say i think commey is better than teo

they fight and teo destroys him

well seems like then i shud look at that very clear evidence and hence now believe teo is better than commey

but according to you we can't do that. and therefore we cant change our view going ahead to the next fight, or the one after that, or the one after that


do you still think ohara is better than josh taylor or forrest better than takam?

I never thought Ohara was better than Taylor but your Forrest point I was clearly wrong about. But the difference is I'm not picking Takam to beat let say Joseph Parker after I incorrectly picked Forrest over him. You see I'm not acting like I knew Takam was the goods now to beat Parker that's what I seeing going on. How can I pick a lower level to beat him then switch and bascially say he will beat the best in the division. I respect the move you pulled even though u got the Ohara part wrong.

Actually had to go back and realize I did pick Ohara over Josh Taylor WOW! No excuse I made that pick.

Teo is still not as skillful as he needs to be to defeat Loma, if he ever will be. Loma by UD.

What happens in fights is the best evidence we can get, to discount it or not use it is , in my humble opinion sir, completely stupid