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WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 16 Jul 2020, 00:54
by Enlightened-One
"WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles"

The president of the World Boxing Association, Gilberto Mendoza, admits that there is difficulty in reducing the number of titles that his organization sanctions, but also states that credibility in an industry like boxing is not simply given by sanctioning a single title per weight class.

In the last few years, the vast majority of fans have become tired of the countless world champions in every weight class. Most casual fans have found it impossible to distinguish one title from the other - especially when a sanctioning body has more than one champion in a single weight division.

Among the four major sanctioning bodies, the WBA and WBC have become notorious for having multiple champions per weight class.

While the criticisms have not stopped against the WBA over their path of having numerous champions per weight class - Mendoza says the incoming requests from promoters to approve various title fights have continued to pour in - with promoters indicating, in their requests, that a title will benefit their fighters and their televised event.

While Mendoza has spoken to rival sanctioning bodies about staging division-wide unification tournaments - the issue that comes up, is that certain promoters and/or champions are not interested in participating.

“They tell me that there must be only one champion, but they don't give me solid arguments. They tell me that [the titles] are devalued, but when we talk about making a tournament to set a single champion, not everyone wants to enter it. When we talk about accepting a champion versus champion fight - not everyone is willing to take part," Mendoza told ESPN Deportes.

"And on the other hand... a boxer with a title does better, a boxer who gets himself a title fight does better, a network that broadcasts a title fight does better, a promoter who has a title fight does better. The same fan [who complains], if he knows there is a title at stake, they are more attentive [to the fight]."

According to the WBA's rankings, there are 39 champions in 17 divisions, including super champions, regular and interim champions. Only in the welterweight division with Manny Pacquiao and strawweight with Thammanoon Niyomtrong, Knockout CP Freshmart, there is only a single champion. Two champions are recognized in eight divisions and in the other seven there are three champions per weight class.

"We would love to have a balance in terms of titles, but what is the balance that we could we offer?," Mendoza said.

“The ideal thing would be to do a tournament like the World Boxing Super Series does, where we have the best and not just the fighters that a promoter or two offers us."


Thoughts? :-?

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 16 Jul 2020, 01:03
by Enlightened-One
I know the above article claims there were currently 39 champions (from 17 weight classes), but a few months ago I counted 47 (if we include super, regular, interim and GOLD versions). And I even listed the names of the men that held those straps.

• January 2016 - 41 men held various types of “world” title belts
• February 2018 - 25 men held multiple types of “world” title belts
• March 2020 - 47 men held various kinds of “world” title belts

Anthony Joshua, Mahmoud Charr, Robert Helenius and Trevor Bryan hold belts at heavyweight alone. :o

January 2016, the WBA announced their plans to reduce the number of world titleholders. They reiterated this pledge during February of last year.

It seems that WBA might have finally given up hope on delivering their promise.

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 16 Jul 2020, 06:15
by Thomastearns
Obviously 47 is not enough.

Even now we are forced to strip boxers unnecessarily off their titles. This simply must not be tolerated in the new world order. Anyone who wants to fight for a title has a right to do so - there must be no discrimination.

Money talks - if the money is right maybe you might even get to see Mendoza v Sulaiman at catch-weight.

The world debt clock is ticking ever faster and our politicians have no problem with 'borrowing' money from the future.

So why can't boxing do the same?

What was that you say?

The fans might not like it?

Oh no worries, it's long been known those schmucks have money to burn and very short memories.

Don't give me that Joe Louis / Muhammad Ali undisputed crap - that's all history, dead and dusted. Now let me tell you how the Mayweather - Pacquiao deal was finally made, and did you hear about the real Mayweather - McGregor numbers?

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 16 Jul 2020, 08:10
by Ruthless-RKO
Created a duplicate in error

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 17 Jul 2020, 14:05
by Thomastearns
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Jul 2020, 08:10 Created a duplicate in error

If only Mendoza had said that - instead of some rubbish about promoters indicating that a title will benefit their fighters and their televised event.

If so, then why then not make every fight a title one. Oh, it's already being considered?

Fair enough!

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 17 Jul 2020, 14:19
by gilgamesh
It's very easy. Ya just f*cking do it.

Most people wouldn't even notice these belts ceasing to exist nor would they give a sh*t.

If one of the Interim Titleholders is supposed to be the #1 contender. Well fine, give him a mandatory title shot.

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 17 Jul 2020, 15:18
by Ruthless-RKO
gilgamesh wrote: 17 Jul 2020, 14:19 It's very easy. Ya just f*cking do it.

Most people wouldn't even notice these belts ceasing to exist nor would they give a sh*t.

If one of the Interim Titleholders is supposed to be the #1 contender. Well fine, give him a mandatory title shot.
Instead they’ll have separate mandatories for the ‘super’, ‘regular’ and ‘interim’..9

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 17 Jul 2020, 18:34
by tiny_acres
It's an easy fix.
Super champ must face Regular world, interim then gold champion in next 18 months.
Unify their clusterfucked mess

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 17 Jul 2020, 19:36
by Jeff_lacy_ko
I dont want to live in a world where there isnt a wba gold interim super regular champion.

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 18 Jul 2020, 06:53
by Paci
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 17 Jul 2020, 19:36 I dont want to live in a world where there isnt a wba gold interim super regular champion.
:OhYes:

Re: WBA Prez Admits It's Not Easy To Reduce The Number of Titles

Posted: 18 Jul 2020, 10:25
by fanman
The belts only have relevance in people's minds. If they no longer matter, it is what it is. There are plenty of belts that have no worth, wbf, etc.

Just look at the ring mag top 10, and you will have a true idea of who is the best, or who are the top few.