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Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 09:57
by jameswilson
Just watching today’s weigh ins two fights down the card have had the challenger weigh in a pound or so over. Obviously for title fights there are clear rules on this, if you don’t make weight the title isn’t on the line for you and if the fight does go ahead you could lose some of your purse.

On these undercard fights how does it work? Will the guys (Hopey price’s opponent and Fowler’s opponent) to weigh back in in an hour and if the miss lose some of their purse or will they just say ok it’s only a few ounces no harm done?

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 10:46
by spudder56
jameswilson wrote: 06 Aug 2020, 09:57 Just watching today’s weigh ins two fights down the card have had the challenger weigh in a pound or so over. Obviously for title fights there are clear rules on this, if you don’t make weight the title isn’t on the line for you and if the fight does go ahead you could lose some of your purse.

On these undercard fights how does it work? Will the guys (Hopey price’s opponent and Fowler’s opponent) to weigh back in in an hour and if the miss lose some of their purse or will they just say ok it’s only a few ounces no harm done?
If it’s an undercard fight it’s very unlikely that there is a contract in place

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 10:59
by mickey1975
They’ll want some cash off them.

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 11:45
by Coco
There are rarely contracts in place for undercard fights but the unwritten rule is that if you weigh in you get paid.
In terms of the other fella being overweight, back in the 90's it was like 50 quid a pound, nevertheless you did have the right to say you are not fighting if he didn't skip it off.
I fought a few times when this happened, the last time was in Spain, the fella was close to a stone heavier and started gulping down fluids as soon as he jumped off the scales.
There was obv no way he was skipping the weight off and he said he wasn't going to fight if they wanted him to take weight off.
I thought no probs because I was still getting paid, but they then said if there was no fight I wasn't getting my money.
In the end they cut the fight from 8 rounds to 4 rounds for the same money.
10 mins before the fight they offered me 500 euros more to do 6 rounds(a lot of the fights had finished early)
So I took the extra money but the fight only went 4 anyway because I got cut!

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 12:14
by Counter-puncher
Coco wrote: 06 Aug 2020, 11:45 There are rarely contracts in place for undercard fights but the unwritten rule is that if you weigh in you get paid.
In terms of the other fella being overweight, back in the 90's it was like 50 quid a pound, nevertheless you did have the right to say you are not fighting if he didn't skip it off.
I fought a few times when this happened, the last time was in Spain, the fella was close to a stone heavier and started gulping down fluids as soon as he jumped off the scales.
There was obv no way he was skipping the weight off and he said he wasn't going to fight if they wanted him to take weight off.
I thought no probs because I was still getting paid, but they then said if there was no fight I wasn't getting my money.
In the end they cut the fight from 8 rounds to 4 rounds for the same money.
10 mins before the fight they offered me 500 euros more to do 6 rounds(a lot of the fights had finished early)
So I took the extra money but the fight only went 4 anyway because I got cut!
ha, good story mate

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 12:31
by mickey1975
You need a decent manager to get you the extra because the small hall promoters will try and do you.

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 12:35
by Coco
mickey1975 wrote: 06 Aug 2020, 12:31 You need a decent manager to get you the extra because the small hall promoters will try and do you.
Many a time they tell you that you will have the money later and then disappear! So yes a decent manager in this situation is good.

Once I was on a Hearn dinner show in London and was on my own, my opponent was 3 lbs over.
Not really knowing what to do I went up to him on his table after the fight. He gave me the money with a smile on his face, thanked me for fighting and said well done while offering me a drink.
Barry always treated the fighters well.

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 17:41
by jameswilson
Just seen Kane Baker v Aquib Fiaz has been called off because Fiaz is feeling ill.

It seems he missed weight slightly earlier and didn’t have to take the weight off while the lad from Sandhurst did.

Classic case of the ‘opponent’ in inverted commas getting screwed over and having to swallow?

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 17:45
by margaret thatcher
I enjoy a good fiazzy drink :maybe:

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 19:06
by Coco
jameswilson wrote: 06 Aug 2020, 17:41 Just seen Kane Baker v Aquib Fiaz has been called off because Fiaz is feeling ill.

It seems he missed weight slightly earlier and didn’t have to take the weight off while the lad from Sandhurst did.

Classic case of the ‘opponent’ in inverted commas getting screwed over and having to swallow?
But I guess the opponent was paid yeah? If you weigh you get weighed in!

Re: Making weight and contracts

Posted: 06 Aug 2020, 20:39
by gregregegg
I like UFCs system where if you miss weight and IF the fight happens then 20-30% of the guy that missed weights purse gose to the guy he is VSing. i think boxing promoters should adopt that. (only in fights where a weight limmit is actually properly set, not when there like 4 rounders and peole just gotta turn up ballpark).