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Let's say I am 5 ft 11'1⁄2 (1.82 cm) height, and 176 lbs (80 kg) weight.

In UFC middleweight, it's between 170 lbs (77 kg) - 185 lbs (83 kg).

In boxing middleweight, it's between 154 lb (70 kg) - 160 lb (73 kg).

So I would be a middleweight in UFC. But in boxing, I am passing two weight classes; I can't even be light heavyweight 168–175 lbs (76.20 - 79.37 kg), I will be cruiserweight 175–200 lbs (79.37 - 90.71 kg)

But I can't be a light heavyweight in UFC; between 185 lb (83.9 kg)- 205 lb (93.0 kg)

Do UFC's weight classes make sense to you?

Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 19:49 Let's say I am 5 ft 11'1⁄2 (1.82 cm) height, and 176 lbs (80 kg) weight.

In UFC middleweight, it's between 170 lbs (77 kg) - 185 lbs (83 kg).

In boxing middleweight, it's between 154 lb (70 kg) - 160 lb (73 kg).

So I would be a middleweight in UFC. But in boxing, I am passing two weight classes; I can't even be light heavyweight 168–175 lbs (76.20 - 79.37 kg), I will be cruiserweight 175–200 lbs (79.37 - 90.71 kg)

But I can't be a light heavyweight in UFC; between 185 lb (83.9 kg)- 205 lb (93.0 kg)

Do UFC's weight classes make sense to you?

I'm not sure why they determined the weights they did. I'd assume because grappling plays such a bigger role in it.

But KickBoxing has the same weight limits I believe so that throws the grappling answer out.

All things considered UFC having only the important weight classes is a good thing, and something Boxing needs to go back to.

I'd be fine with keeping Strawweight and Cruiserweight, but every other Jr/Super division can and should f*ck off.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 20:00

Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 19:49 Let's say I am 5 ft 11'1⁄2 (1.82 cm) height, and 176 lbs (80 kg) weight.

In UFC middleweight, it's between 170 lbs (77 kg) - 185 lbs (83 kg).

In boxing middleweight, it's between 154 lb (70 kg) - 160 lb (73 kg).

So I would be a middleweight in UFC. But in boxing, I am passing two weight classes; I can't even be light heavyweight 168–175 lbs (76.20 - 79.37 kg), I will be cruiserweight 175–200 lbs (79.37 - 90.71 kg)

But I can't be a light heavyweight in UFC; between 185 lb (83.9 kg)- 205 lb (93.0 kg)

Do UFC's weight classes make sense to you?

I'm not sure why they determined the weights they did. I'd assume because grappling plays such a bigger role in it.

But KickBoxing has the same weight limits I believe so that throws the grappling answer out.

All things considered UFC having only the important weight classes is a good thing, and something Boxing needs to go back to.

I'd be fine with keeping Strawweight and Cruiserweight, but every other Jr/Super division can and should f*ck off.

Not only this, that UFC Heavyweight upper limit makes no sense to me as well, it's heavyweight, why there is an upper limit?

If people are heavier than 265 lbs (120 kg), they can't fight. So that means Tyson Fury (273 lbs - 123 kg) from rematch with Wilder, is not allowed to fight in UFC. As well as Andy Ruiz Jr. (283 lbs), Valuev (324 lbs).

Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 21:24

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 20:00

Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 19:49 Let's say I am 5 ft 11'1⁄2 (1.82 cm) height, and 176 lbs (80 kg) weight.

In UFC middleweight, it's between 170 lbs (77 kg) - 185 lbs (83 kg).

In boxing middleweight, it's between 154 lb (70 kg) - 160 lb (73 kg).

So I would be a middleweight in UFC. But in boxing, I am passing two weight classes; I can't even be light heavyweight 168–175 lbs (76.20 - 79.37 kg), I will be cruiserweight 175–200 lbs (79.37 - 90.71 kg)

But I can't be a light heavyweight in UFC; between 185 lb (83.9 kg)- 205 lb (93.0 kg)

Do UFC's weight classes make sense to you?

I'm not sure why they determined the weights they did. I'd assume because grappling plays such a bigger role in it.

But KickBoxing has the same weight limits I believe so that throws the grappling answer out.

All things considered UFC having only the important weight classes is a good thing, and something Boxing needs to go back to.

I'd be fine with keeping Strawweight and Cruiserweight, but every other Jr/Super division can and should f*ck off.

Not only this, that UFC Heavyweight upper limit makes no sense to me as well, it's heavyweight, why there is an upper limit?

If people are heavier than 265 lbs (120 kg), they can't fight. So that means Tyson Fury (273 lbs - 123 kg) from rematch with Wilder, is not allowed to fight in UFC. As well as Andy Ruiz Jr. (283 lbs), Valuev (324 lbs).

I don't get the upper limit thing myself either. Couldn't give you a good explanation for it.

Ruiz?

Trying to keep slobs like him out of the cage. I'd guess part of it was structure after their initial tournaments and trying to separate from pride. How many in shape fighters can't make 265?

UFC weight divisions are great, including 265lb limit. Someone 290lbs could cut to 265lbs. There's nobody on Earth (clean) weighing more than that who is in shape to fight a hard 5 x 5'.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑14 Aug 2020, 09:29 Ruiz?

Trying to keep slobs like him out of the cage. I'd guess part of it was structure after their initial tournaments and trying to separate from pride. How many in shape fighters can't make 265?

There'd be rare exceptions with exceptionally tall guys I'd imagine. I can see why they wouldn't want fatasses, though they've had some in the UFC before.

UFC classes are/were based on wrestling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_weight_classes

There’s still some differences but it’s much closer.

Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 21:24
Not only this, that UFC Heavyweight upper limit makes no sense to me as well, it's heavyweight, why there is an upper limit?

If people are heavier than 265 lbs (120 kg), they can't fight. So that means Tyson Fury (273 lbs - 123 kg) from rematch with Wilder, is not allowed to fight in UFC. As well as Andy Ruiz Jr. (283 lbs), Valuev (324 lbs).

Look here: https://www.abcboxing.com/committee-rep ... s-for-mma/

There's a Super Heavyweight division over 265 lbs in MMA. Major promotions usually just don't make such fights, but it happens. When Bob Sapp fought in Strikeforce vs Jan Nortje it was officially a Super Heavyweight match.

Major weight difference is very dangerous in MMA because of kicks, knees and slams. It's more liberal in Japan where MMA is not officially regulated, but even Pride banned kicks and knees to the head of downed opponent if the weight difference was too big. MMA is way more regulated now and they won't allow something like Bob Sapp slamming smaller guys like he used to in PRIDE.

bobu sappu

Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 21:24

gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 20:00

Tevfik1907 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 19:49 Let's say I am 5 ft 11'1⁄2 (1.82 cm) height, and 176 lbs (80 kg) weight.

In UFC middleweight, it's between 170 lbs (77 kg) - 185 lbs (83 kg).

In boxing middleweight, it's between 154 lb (70 kg) - 160 lb (73 kg).

So I would be a middleweight in UFC. But in boxing, I am passing two weight classes; I can't even be light heavyweight 168–175 lbs (76.20 - 79.37 kg), I will be cruiserweight 175–200 lbs (79.37 - 90.71 kg)

But I can't be a light heavyweight in UFC; between 185 lb (83.9 kg)- 205 lb (93.0 kg)

Do UFC's weight classes make sense to you?

I'm not sure why they determined the weights they did. I'd assume because grappling plays such a bigger role in it.

But KickBoxing has the same weight limits I believe so that throws the grappling answer out.

All things considered UFC having only the important weight classes is a good thing, and something Boxing needs to go back to.

I'd be fine with keeping Strawweight and Cruiserweight, but every other Jr/Super division can and should f*ck off.

Not only this, that UFC Heavyweight upper limit makes no sense to me as well, it's heavyweight, why there is an upper limit?

If people are heavier than 265 lbs (120 kg), they can't fight. So that means Tyson Fury (273 lbs - 123 kg) from rematch with Wilder, is not allowed to fight in UFC. As well as Andy Ruiz Jr. (283 lbs), Valuev (324 lbs).

Fury could cut to 265lbs in a day or two. Easy. Brock Lesnar cut way more. Ruiz would take four days max.

Valuev would need to be a super-heavyweight.

I was recently thinking about weight classes in MMA. They Really Should have at least one separate division between they're 155 LW division, and they're 170 WW division. 162.5 would be right in the middle of LW and WW. Obviously it would be titled as either Junior WW,or Super LW.

Maybe because boxing weights originated in early 1900s when people were way smaller. By the time UFC came along, people are way bigger and this is reflected by the weight differences. I agree with this.

This is how MMA is and "Should be set-up/re-set", with The Weight-Divisions.

105-115 - StrawWeight
115-125 - Flyweight
125-135 - BantamWeight
135-145 - FeatherWeight
145-155 - LightWeight
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The Re-Set
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155-165 - WelterWeight
165-175 - MiddleWeight
175-185 - BridgerWeight
185-195 - Light heavyweight
195-215 - CruiserWeight
215-235 - Junior Heavy Weight
235-265 - HeavyWeight
265-295 - Super HeavyWeight
295 and Up - UltraWeight