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Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 00:30
by Evander
Gary Russell Jr is looking for a fight with Terence Crawford.
How does Russell make 147 ?

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 00:34
by margaret thatcher
If he can get Crawford to cut to 126 and make it to the ring actually alive then he's got a great chance :yay:

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 02:17
by Evander
So what's he going on about ?
He's a regular weigh in mid 120's.
Russell is almost 20 pounds off 147, not counting post Welterweight weigh in which would be in the 150's.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 04:10
by Bard of Boxrec
Russell doesn’t want to fight anyone.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 04:14
by gregregegg
Thats the worst example of using someones name iv just about ever heard, and crawford isnt even a giant name... Russell hasnt jumped out of 126 yet, and he shouldent because he still has warrington, and naverate to fight. He can do 130, and mabey 135 (if he avoids some killers) but no way he can go above that.

Unless it was one of his 10000 brothers that said it, mabey one of them is heavier...

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 06:33
by Syntax Error
Russell Jr is going to have to get weight gain tips from Andy Ruiz Jr.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 08:58
by IKSRTFO
gregregegg wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 04:14 Thats the worst example of using someones name iv just about ever heard, and crawford isnt even a giant name... Russell hasnt jumped out of 126 yet, and he shouldent because he still has warrington, and naverate to fight. He can do 130, and mabey 135 (if he avoids some killers) but no way he can go above that.

Unless it was one of his 10000 brothers that said it, mabey one of them is heavier...
It's all about his "trump card" Russell thinks he has which is he sucker punched Crawford in a gym full of fighters when they were in the amateurs and got away with it. He thinks that makes him something.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 12:23
by Enlightened-One
It’s a weird situation, which might be a political manoeuvre to portray Top Rank or Terence Crawford in a poor light.

The likes of Russell Jr., Shawn Porter and Keith Thurman are (technically-speaking) promotional and network free agents, but they’re all well paid by the PBC. So they’re able to fight anyone they want.

And Bob Arum signed Terence Crawford to a lengthy contract, guaranteeing Bud a lofty $3m guarantee per bout (regardless as to whomever he faces, despite his underwhelming viewing figures). There's not much money left in the pot to pay Bud's opponents.

So the only way Top Rank could stage bouts involving high-profile PBC names, is to potentially stage loss-making events, hence the reason why the Porter and Thurman fights aren’t being made.

Bob Arum keeps mentioning big name fighters when being interviewed, in order to keep Crawford’s name in the media spotlight, but the Top Rank chief never delivers.

And I really can’t help wondering whether Gary Russell Jr. is using the same ploy to promote himself, knowing full-well that Top Rank wouldn’t attempt to take him up on his offer, even if Crawford really did want the fight.

It’s a case of “let’s do some name dropping, even though I don’t really want the fight, because being insincere attracts media headlines and bigger audience figures”.

Top Rank does it all the time with PBC fighters... and it's about time a PBC fighter exploited Top Rank in the same way.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 13:16
by margaret thatcher
Ya! It's about time PBC struck back, they've been bullied for long enough!

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 13:41
by IKSRTFO
Enlightened-One wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 12:23 It’s a weird situation, which might be a political manoeuvre to portray Top Rank or Terence Crawford in a poor light.

The likes of Russell Jr., Shawn Porter and Keith Thurman are (technically-speaking) promotional and network free agents, but they’re all well paid by the PBC. So they’re able to fight anyone they want.

And Bob Arum signed Terence Crawford to a lengthy contract, guaranteeing Bud a lofty $3m guarantee per bout (regardless as to whomever he faces, despite his underwhelming viewing figures). There's not much money left in the pot to pay Bud's opponents.

So the only way Top Rank could stage bouts involving high-profile PBC names, is to potentially stage loss-making events, hence the reason why the Porter and Thurman fights aren’t being made.

Bob Arum keeps mentioning big name fighters when being interviewed, in order to keep Crawford’s name in the media spotlight, but the Top Rank chief never delivers.

And I really can’t help wondering whether Gary Russell Jr. is using the same ploy to promote himself, knowing full-well that Top Rank wouldn’t attempt to take him up on his offer, even if Crawford really did want the fight.

It’s a case of “let’s do some name dropping, even though I don’t really want the fight, because being insincere attracts media headlines and bigger audience figures”.

Top Rank does it all the time with PBC fighters... and it's about time a PBC fighter exploited Top Rank in the same way.
Not sure I'd even say that as Russell has been highly critical of PBC and in particular, Al Haymon.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 13:41
by IKSRTFO
margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 13:16 Ya! It's about time PBC struck back, they've been bullied for long enough!
Bullied by who?

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 17:27
by Onetimeonly
IKSRTFO wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 13:41
margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 13:16 Ya! It's about time PBC struck back, they've been bullied for long enough!
Bullied by who?
YOU!!!

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 17:59
by 1okstcsb
Gary Russell JR. should just fight the winner of Tank VS LSC, both would be very happy to fight Russell JR. and it would be an easy fight to make, Tank VS Russell JR is Baltimore vs Washington D.C. a Natural Rivalry and LSC has wanted to fight Russell Jr. for a long time, to avenge his (LSC) loss to Russell JR. in the Amateurs, but just like LSC ducked RIGO, Russell JR. has ducked LSC.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 21:04
by IKSRTFO
Onetimeonly wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 17:27
IKSRTFO wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 13:41
margaret thatcher wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 13:16 Ya! It's about time PBC struck back, they've been bullied for long enough!
Bullied by who?
YOU!!!
???
:zzz:

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 19 Aug 2020, 21:05
by IKSRTFO
1okstcsb wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 17:59 Gary Russell JR. should just fight the winner of Tank VS LSC, both would be very happy to fight Russell JR. and it would be an easy fight to make, Tank VS Russell JR is Baltimore vs Washington D.C. a Natural Rivalry and LSC has wanted to fight Russell Jr. for a long time, to avenge his (LSC) loss to Russell JR. in the Amateurs, but just like LSC ducked RIGO, Russell JR. has ducked LSC.
Nah, if either of them wanted to fight Russell, they would've long ago, especially LSC.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 20 Aug 2020, 01:32
by Enlightened-One
1okstcsb wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 17:59 Gary Russell JR. should just fight the winner of Tank VS LSC, both would be very happy to fight Russell JR. and it would be an easy fight to make, Tank VS Russell JR is Baltimore vs Washington D.C. a Natural Rivalry and LSC has wanted to fight Russell Jr. for a long time, to avenge his (LSC) loss to Russell JR. in the Amateurs, but just like LSC ducked RIGO, Russell JR. has ducked LSC.
Gary Russell Jr. has called out Gervonta Davis numerous times recently.

It's just that both fighters have been competing in different weight classes, with Russell Jr. campaigning his entire career as a featherweight (126lbs) and with Davis' most recent bout fought two divisions higher at lightweight.

Gary Russell Jr. is one of the longest-reigning champions in the sport of boxing, with his WBC featherweight title reign currently 5½ years in length.

He also maintains that the main reason he's remained at 126lbs for so long was due to his desire to engage in a title unification bout against Leo Santa Cruz, who instead opted to vacate his featherweight title and move up a division to face an unheralded foe.

It’s wrong of you to accuse Gary Russell Jr. of ducking Leo Santa Cruz. He definitely tried to make that fight numerous times, going so far as to threaten Leo's father.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 20 Aug 2020, 09:12
by IKSRTFO
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Aug 2020, 01:32
1okstcsb wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 17:59 Gary Russell JR. should just fight the winner of Tank VS LSC, both would be very happy to fight Russell JR. and it would be an easy fight to make, Tank VS Russell JR is Baltimore vs Washington D.C. a Natural Rivalry and LSC has wanted to fight Russell Jr. for a long time, to avenge his (LSC) loss to Russell JR. in the Amateurs, but just like LSC ducked RIGO, Russell JR. has ducked LSC.
Gary Russell Jr. has called out Gervonta Davis numerous times recently.

It's just that both fighters have been competing in different weight classes, with Russell Jr. campaigning his entire career as a featherweight (126lbs) and with Davis' most recent bout fought two divisions higher at lightweight.

Gary Russell Jr. is one of the longest-reigning champions in the sport of boxing, with his WBC featherweight title reign currently 5½ years in length.

He also maintains that the main reason he's remained at 126lbs for so long was due to his desire to engage in a title unification bout against Leo Santa Cruz, who instead opted to vacate his featherweight title and move up a division to face an unheralded foe.

It’s wrong of you to accuse Gary Russell Jr. of ducking Leo Santa Cruz. He definitely tried to make that fight numerous times, going so far as to threaten Leo's father.
I don't normally agree with EO, but he's 100% true on this.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 20 Aug 2020, 09:42
by gilgamesh
Gary Russell Jr. is just an attention seeker. He doesn't have the balls to fight the tough opponents in his own weight class since getting taken to school by Loma in Loma's 3rd or 4th fight.

It'll be a cold day in hell before he ever takes on Crawford or Davis or anyone like that, and if by some miracle it ever happens I'll laugh my ass off when he gets smashed.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 22 Aug 2020, 17:16
by tennessee
Gary been drinking again.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 22 Aug 2020, 17:34
by 1okstcsb
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Aug 2020, 01:32
1okstcsb wrote: 19 Aug 2020, 17:59 Gary Russell JR. should just fight the winner of Tank VS LSC, both would be very happy to fight Russell JR. and it would be an easy fight to make, Tank VS Russell JR is Baltimore vs Washington D.C. a Natural Rivalry and LSC has wanted to fight Russell Jr. for a long time, to avenge his (LSC) loss to Russell JR. in the Amateurs, but just like LSC ducked RIGO, Russell JR. has ducked LSC.
Gary Russell Jr. has called out Gervonta Davis numerous times recently.

It's just that both fighters have been competing in different weight classes, with Russell Jr. campaigning his entire career as a featherweight (126lbs) and with Davis' most recent bout fought two divisions higher at lightweight.

Gary Russell Jr. is one of the longest-reigning champions in the sport of boxing, with his WBC featherweight title reign currently 5½ years in length.

He also maintains that the main reason he's remained at 126lbs for so long was due to his desire to engage in a title unification bout against Leo Santa Cruz, who instead opted to vacate his featherweight title and move up a division to face an unheralded foe.

It’s wrong of you to accuse Gary Russell Jr. of ducking Leo Santa Cruz. He definitely tried to make that fight numerous times, going so far as to threaten Leo's father.
What I was told was LSC wanted to avenge his Amateur Loss to Russell and Russell was avoiding it, well if like you say. then Russell should sit ringside at the Tank VS LSC fight, and immediately after the fight, get in the Ring and Challenge the winner, So Russell can have a big fight and stop the foolish talk of going up 4 Weight divisions, IF they were the same size Russell VS T. Crawford would be a GREAT fight, as both have great skills, but at some point size matters when both are extremely high skilled.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 24 Aug 2020, 12:12
by Bandog
gilgamesh wrote: 20 Aug 2020, 09:42 Gary Russell Jr. is just an attention seeker. He doesn't have the balls to fight the tough opponents in his own weight class since getting taken to school by Loma in Loma's 3rd or 4th fight.

It'll be a cold day in hell before he ever takes on Crawford or Davis or anyone like that, and if by some miracle it ever happens I'll laugh my ass off when he gets smashed.
I think you hit the nail on the head there. It is more of a message statement to show he's not afraid. GR is a good boxer, but needs to stay in his own division, maybe go up one, and be more active against better guys there.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 24 Aug 2020, 13:08
by fightseer
Gary has beef with Crawford over some argument they had in the amateurs wherein Russell hit Crawford. I guess Russell was sent home from that Tournament. They started arguing on youtube over it all over again which led to Russell stating he wanted to fight Crawford. I don't think it's smart for Russell to jump that many weight classes to fight Crawford.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 24 Aug 2020, 17:18
by gilgamesh
Bandog wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 12:12
gilgamesh wrote: 20 Aug 2020, 09:42 Gary Russell Jr. is just an attention seeker. He doesn't have the balls to fight the tough opponents in his own weight class since getting taken to school by Loma in Loma's 3rd or 4th fight.

It'll be a cold day in hell before he ever takes on Crawford or Davis or anyone like that, and if by some miracle it ever happens I'll laugh my ass off when he gets smashed.
I think you hit the nail on the head there. It is more of a message statement to show he's not afraid. GR is a good boxer, but needs to stay in his own division, maybe go up one, and be more active against better guys there.
Hell the ship has probably damn near sailed on him being more active. The guy has already pissed away at least 5 or 6 years of his career doing f*ck all.

Making good money doing it though.

Re: Gary Russell Jr wants to fight Terence Crawford

Posted: 24 Aug 2020, 17:19
by gilgamesh
fightseer wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 13:08 Gary has beef with Crawford over some argument they had in the amateurs wherein Russell hit Crawford. I guess Russell was sent home from that Tournament. They started arguing on youtube over it all over again which led to Russell stating he wanted to fight Crawford. I don't think it's smart for Russell to jump that many weight classes to fight Crawford.
It's not even worth discussing seriously.

Russell doesn't have the balls.

If Crawford came up and grabbed his girlfriend's ass in front of him, he'd just stand there, and look.