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smiling assassin wrote: ↑13 Sep 2020, 15:47 I follow lots of boxers on Instagram and most of them seem to be putting a lot of time into strength and conditioning. There seems to be to much emphasis on that rather than learning the sweet science. Some fighters today look the part but seem to lack massively in the skill department. Why so much emphasis on new training fads than actually trying to perfect their craft? I don’t get it

punchoutsb wrote: ↑13 Sep 2020, 18:37

smiling assassin wrote: ↑13 Sep 2020, 15:47 I follow lots of boxers on Instagram and most of them seem to be putting a lot of time into strength and conditioning. There seems to be to much emphasis on that rather than learning the sweet science. Some fighters today look the part but seem to lack massively in the skill department. Why so much emphasis on new training fads than actually trying to perfect their craft? I don’t get it

I wouldn't call strength and conditioning a "fad", although there are certainly a lot of poor strength and conditioning coaches out there using faddish methodology on their athletes.

There is also a life outside instagram...and I don't mean that as a personal attack on you! Just that a lot of instagram content is posted to attract views and likely not a great representation of overall lifestyle/routine. Strength and conditioning work is much more viewer friendly then technique work, for example.

In my opinion, and obviously this is just one perspective, but learning the sweet science is best done on the job. In the past fighters fought for a living. Today they perform for a massive payday once or twice a year. Obviously those starting out are not in that position, but that position is their end goal/dream. I think a lot of the lack of skill seen has less to do with strength and conditioning being the dominant part of their training, and more to do with the fact that they're probably not fighting enough to learn for real.

smiling assassin wrote: ↑14 Sep 2020, 02:34

punchoutsb wrote: ↑13 Sep 2020, 18:37

smiling assassin wrote: ↑13 Sep 2020, 15:47 I follow lots of boxers on Instagram and most of them seem to be putting a lot of time into strength and conditioning. There seems to be to much emphasis on that rather than learning the sweet science. Some fighters today look the part but seem to lack massively in the skill department. Why so much emphasis on new training fads than actually trying to perfect their craft? I don’t get it

I wouldn't call strength and conditioning a "fad", although there are certainly a lot of poor strength and conditioning coaches out there using faddish methodology on their athletes.

There is also a life outside instagram...and I don't mean that as a personal attack on you! Just that a lot of instagram content is posted to attract views and likely not a great representation of overall lifestyle/routine. Strength and conditioning work is much more viewer friendly then technique work, for example.

In my opinion, and obviously this is just one perspective, but learning the sweet science is best done on the job. In the past fighters fought for a living. Today they perform for a massive payday once or twice a year. Obviously those starting out are not in that position, but that position is their end goal/dream. I think a lot of the lack of skill seen has less to do with strength and conditioning being the dominant part of their training, and more to do with the fact that they're probably not fighting enough to learn for real.

Thanks
For the detailed response punchout. I understand Instagram doesn’t show the full story. I’d much rather see boxers performing boxing drills on their videos but I can understand that wouldn’t appeal to everyone.
I get your point about fighters not fighting as much but that should mean they are spending more time perfecting the skills required in a boxing gym. It’s all well and good looking body beautiful and setting PBs on the track but if you can’t fight it means nothing.

Onamastus wrote: ↑14 Sep 2020, 12:58 Modern boxers are probably on average stronger than ever, certainly the most cut and defined ever, but they also seem to be the most lacking ever in terms of ringcraft.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑14 Sep 2020, 13:35 They also have pisspoor stamina compared to historical fighters. Always hilarious to see these ‘modern Adonis’ get gassed after 4 rounds.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Sep 2020, 15:18 Some 6 foot 200 pound in shape dude should come school and out fit these big dudes?

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑14 Sep 2020, 13:35 They also have pisspoor stamina compared to historical fighters. Always hilarious to see these ‘modern Adonis’ get gassed after 4 rounds.