This is something that I've been wanting to see for a long time. I recently listened to a Howard Stern interview with Roy Jones Jr. and he briefly mentioned that his dad fought Hagler which got me, again, wanting to try and get a hold of this footage. I put feelers out there for this a while back, but came up dry. Does anyone know if this footage exists?
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 10:49
by klompton
tdogg wrote: ↑16 Sep 2020, 03:04
This is something that I've been wanting to see for a long time. I recently listened to a Howard Stern interview with Roy Jones Jr. and he briefly mentioned that his dad fought Hagler which got me, again, wanting to try and get a hold of this footage. I put feelers out there for this a while back, but came up dry. Does anyone know if this footage exists?
The Roy Jones that Hagler fought wasnt Roy Jones Jr's dad. Theyve been passing that story off for years.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 12:07
by Onamastus
Conflicting stories on this. Back in the pre internet era I read Phil Berger's rubbishing of Big Roy's claim, and believed it. But years later on the internet I was shown some photos from the fight and the opponent was the absolute spitting image of Roy Jones Jr, face and physique.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 07:48
by tdogg
Thanks for the info. Definitely some conflicting stories here.
Here's the interview with Stern:
Roy talks briefly about his dad fighting Hagler at around 1:22:00 mark. It really did seem like Jr. believed it.
Looking over Roy Jones' record, it looks like Vegas was his hometown. I would expect him to fight somewhere out of Florida so that's something that doesn't quite gel with what I would expect.
Would be nice to see those photos of the fight. That outta clear it up. The photo that I've seen from doing a google search didn't really clear anything up to me.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 09:03
by klompton
The Roy Jones who fought Hagler lived in Kalamazoo Michigan but fought out if Vegas. He wasnt Roy Jones Sr.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 09:30
by tdogg
klompton wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 09:03
The Roy Jones who fought Hagler lived in Kalamazoo Michigan but fought out if Vegas. He wasnt Roy Jones Sr.
Sounds like you've been down this road before. Thanks, klompton!
Pretty bizarre that Jr. seemed to have ran with the story as well, but maybe he truly believed, or still believes that his dad fought Hagler. Would like to hear a more recent take on this from Jr.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 10:04
by klompton
This is Roy Jones Sr in 1980:
This is the Roy Jones who fought Hagler in 1976:
They arent even remotely the same the person.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 11:18
by JC
If I just saw the guy in the second pic I could definitely believe that was RJJ's Dad.
I can see why people would have jumped to that conclusion.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 11:32
by tdogg
@J-C,
I don't know... it's not even close. I'm seeing a totally different person in that second pic.
@klompton
Judging by the date on the second photo, was that taken from a newspaper clipping of promo for the fight against Jeff Morgan?
BTW, thanks a ton for sharing these photos.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 11:45
by klompton
tdogg wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:32
@J-C,
I don't know... it's not even close. I'm seeing a totally different person in that second pic.
@klompton
Judging by the date on the second photo, was that taken from a newspaper clipping of promo for the fight against Jeff Morgan?
BTW, thanks a ton for sharing these photos.
Yes. Your welcome.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 14:34
by Onamastus
I would love to see those action shots of Hagler vs Roy Jones again, to see whether I still thought Jones was a dead ringer for RJJ.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 14:36
by margaret thatcher
Ya different guy for sure
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 18 Sep 2020, 09:48
by JC
tdogg wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:32
@J-C,
I don't know... it's not even close. I'm seeing a totally different person in that second pic.
I wasn't saying the guys in the two pictures look like each other.
I meant if I just saw the second pic (without ever a having seen the actual Roy Jones Snr) I could believe that guy was RJJ's Dad because he has some somewhat similar facial features to Roy. Not saying he looks exactly like him but I could believe they were related.
tdogg wrote: ↑17 Sep 2020, 11:32
@J-C,
I don't know... it's not even close. I'm seeing a totally different person in that second pic.
I wasn't saying the guys in the two pictures look like each other.
I meant if I just saw the second pic (without ever a having seen the actual Roy Jones Snr) I could believe that guy was RJJ's Dad because he has some somewhat similar facial features to Roy. Not saying he looks exactly like him but I could believe they were related.
I see what you're saying now.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 13:21
by Caractacus
I think his father much more resembled "Smokin" Burt Cooper from that second photo anyway.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs Roy Jones Sr. Filmed?
Posted: 26 Sep 2020, 14:26
by klompton
Caractacus wrote: ↑26 Sep 2020, 13:21
I think his father much more resembled "Smokin" Burt Cooper from that second photo anyway.
The father wasnt the guy in the second photo. Thats the point of the entire thread.