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David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 09:20
by DrDuke
No custumes, no toe injuries, no piss in the water. Both fit.
Prime vs prime.
12 rounds.
Whom would you pick to win, how and why?
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 09:30
by gilgamesh
Wilder by KO around 5 rounds.
More likely though that Haye would sprain his vagina a few weeks before the fight and call it off.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 09:37
by DrDuke
Wilder definitely could KO Haye and he would do it, if he managed to deliver first. But Wilder won't deliver his best shot first.
Haye was faster, smarter, technically and defesively better than Wilder. While Haye also carried a lot of power. I'd say, Haye would adapt for a couple of rounds, outslick Wilder and catch him somewhere in the mid rounds.
Wilder had blown early rounds frequently against much worse opponents than Haye, before he managed to catch them. Haye wouldn't allow the last thing to happen, he would punish Wilder earlier.
Haye by KO in 6-8 rounds.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 09:40
by gilgamesh
Haye wouldn't even step in the ring.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 09:58
by DrDuke
gilgamesh wrote: ↑13 Nov 2020, 09:40
Haye wouldn't even step in the ring.
Probably. But if he did it, he would ice Deontay.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 14:49
by Bodyshot3
Haye's overall speed and movement remained good up at HW and so did his quick hands.
And given a slow-moving target to hit or someone who could not pull the trigger, he could unload on them too.
But I would still go with Wilder - he ain't a glacier like Valuev or the strangely passive Harrison or busted-up Ruiz - and Denotay throws some bombs and is not doing it once every other round either.
Basically, Wilder is right in the fight and ain't lumbering around like Valuev or fencing like Harrison and if he lands anything then it is doing some serious damage too.
I liked David - still do - but I can see him doing a far better-longer version of Hide v Bowe. He causes some discomfort and also for far longer than Hide did.....but ulimately the way bigger guy, who can fight a bit lands some punches.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 14:56
by vidal
Wilder would have a chance against anyone with his one shot power, but I wouldn’t back him against anyone with decent boxing skills.
Haye never got tagged in his prime, so I’d back him middle to late rounds stoppage.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 13 Nov 2020, 22:07
by emallini
Haye by KO
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 14 Nov 2020, 03:25
by Woldemar
Haye KO 8-9
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 18 Nov 2020, 09:56
by dan28uk
Haye would have schooled wilder until he was hit by wilder right hand , I’m sure he use to use him as a sparring partner as well
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 18 Nov 2020, 10:16
by DrDuke
dan28uk wrote: ↑18 Nov 2020, 09:56
Haye would have schooled wilder until he was hit by wilder right hand , I’m sure he use to use him as a sparring partner as well
Yeah, they sparred, there're tiny fragments of their sessions available and Haye schooled Wilder there.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 18 Nov 2020, 13:29
by dan28uk
Yeah I vaguely remember seeing a clip and then a video after of Richard towers ,wilder and haye together
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 19 Nov 2020, 00:11
by Evander
Remember that footage they showed us of Haye hitting Wilder during sparring in a promotion video.
It was filmed in a gym somewhere along with what seemed like other Haye sparring partners.
Show us the whole thing, someone has got it I'd like to see that.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 19 Nov 2020, 00:15
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote: ↑19 Nov 2020, 00:11
Remember that half assed footage they showed us of Haye hitting Wilder during sparring in a promotion video.
Show us the whole thing, someone has got it I'd like to see that.
It'd be as significant as Wilder's "match" with Charlie Zelenoff.
Sparring don't mean sh*t.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 19 Nov 2020, 00:55
by Evander
gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Nov 2020, 00:15
Evander wrote: ↑19 Nov 2020, 00:11
Remember that half assed footage they showed us of Haye hitting Wilder during sparring in a promotion video.
Show us the whole thing, someone has got it I'd like to see that.
It'd be as significant as Wilder's "match" with Charlie Zelenoff.
Sparring don't mean sh*t.
You wouldn't want to see how that played out from the opening bell, I would've.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 19 Nov 2020, 03:15
by margaret thatcher
wilder gets dropped but gets up and eventually stops a tired out and hurt haye
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 19 Nov 2020, 07:57
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote: ↑19 Nov 2020, 00:55
gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Nov 2020, 00:15
Evander wrote: ↑19 Nov 2020, 00:11
Remember that half assed footage they showed us of Haye hitting Wilder during sparring in a promotion video.
Show us the whole thing, someone has got it I'd like to see that.
It'd be as significant as Wilder's "match" with Charlie Zelenoff.
Sparring don't mean sh*t.
You wouldn't want to see how that played out from the opening bell, I would've.
I'd watch in a heartbeat if they fought. I wouldn't care to see hardly anybody spar.
Re: David Haye vs Deontay Wilder
Posted: 19 Nov 2020, 08:56
by DrDuke
Of course, sparring doesn't mean a lot, because it's practicing, not performing, but in this particular case I find the scanario of those sparrings to be transferred into an actual bout (of course, if Haye looked that great not only on the available extracts and something tells me he did).