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De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 04:42
by Enlightened-One
"De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021"

Oscar De La Hoya says that Gennadiy Golovkin is someone he’s interested in fighting for his comeback match in the first quarter of 2021.

It’s a longshot at best for the aging promoter De La Hoya to try and convince GGG to fight him next year. If there weren’t a potential third fight against Canelo Alvarez for Golovkin, De La Hoya would have a decent shot at getting a fight against him.

But the fact remains, Golovkin and Canelo could be fighting next May on DAZN, and both will make a lot of money for that fight. In other words, Golovkin doesn’t need De La Hoya.

The fighters that De La Hoya should be calling out are Floyd Mayweather Jr and Manny Pacquiao. This is right up Mayweather’s alley to fight De La Hoya again. They could make it an exhibition match and peddle it to the public at a price tag of $100 per household on pay-per-view. Good luck with that.

De La Hoya last fought in 2008, and he would have to shed some pounds for him to get in fighting shape to face GGG or whoever. For some reason, De La Hoya only wants to fight a top fighter for his comeback rather than a journeyman or a regular contender to build his confidence.

De La Hoya’s comeback talk has ‘money grab’ written all over it, but that’s for the public to decide. If they think De La Hoya is just coming back for the money, they won’t bother watching it

The 47-year-old De La Hoya (39-6, 30 KOs) is still serious about wanting to return to the ring after 12 years of living the easy life in retirement.

Interestingly, De La Hoya isn’t talking about wanting to take a tune-up the way that normal fighters do when returning to the ring after many years.

De La Hoya wants to go straight into a big fight against a top fighter like GGG without any warm-up, which is obviously strange, but this is what he wants.

If money is the main reason for De La Hoya making a comeback, it makes sense for him to call out the 38-year-old IBF middleweight champion Golovkin (40-1-1, 35 KOs).

DAZN would likely jump at the idea of GGG facing De La Hoya, even though it would a circus level fight.

“I’m looking to make a comeback first quarter next year, real fight. Regarding opponents, somebody today mentioned somebody that really intrigued me,” said De La Hoya to The Ak & Barak Show @SiriusXMBoxing.

“I’ll tell you, I mean guys like GGG. Guys with that style I took apart no problem. We’ll see.”

“I think the two tough fights against Canelo took something out of Gennadiy Golovkin that I don’t think he gets back,” said Chris Mannix.

“He now goes from being a heavy favorite against anyone he gets in the ring with to being at best an underdog. GGG will fight Kamil Szeremeta on December 18th.

“This will be Golovkin’s first fight in over a year, and the middleweight champion turned 38 back in April. Is Gennadiy Golovkin still a threat to the top middleweights?”

“Yes, and it’s funny how we start questioning this monster, and it wasn’t even a bad performance, but it was one where you seen him hurt,” said Sergio Mora.

“You finally seen Superman get rocked, and you think he’s done. You look at his age; he’s 38; he doesn’t have his legs. Power is the last thing to go. He never relied on his legs.

“Yes, he’s still going to be a threat, and yes, he’s going to be still going to be a devastating puncher. All we need to do is see it against another opponent.

“If he knocks out Szeremeta like he did Steve Rolls, he’s back in business. ‘The Big Drama Show’ returns, It’s power, man; people love knockouts. Once he gets it, people forget about the bad performances.”

GGG wasn’t hurt by headshots from Derevyanchenko. They were body shots, and he definitely struggled with them.

What really made Golovkin look bad was how he was outworked by Derevyanchenko most of the fight, especially in the later rounds. Although GGG was landing big shots, he was frequently missing with punches that would have done a lot of damage to Derevyanchenko if he’d connected.

Derevyanchenko was still beaten up badly and was a bleeding mess at the end of the fight. You can argue that the punishment Derevyanchenko took against Golovkin was one of the reasons he performed so poorly against Jermall Charlo in his last match.

“I’m not so sure because he’s 38-years-old, and in recent fights, he’s been getting hit a lot more than he used to,” said Mannix about Golovkin.

“Go back to Canelo part 2, where he was hit a lot by Canelo Alvarez. Canelo walked through his power and landed some big shots on him. Fast forward to Steve Rolls.

Yes, Golovkin picked up a knockout in that fight, but Rolls got to him a few times, especially in the second round, where Rolls was definitely an inferior opponent to Golovkin.

“And then against a guy like Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Derevyanchenko hurt him. That was the first time I remember seeing Gennadiy Golovkin hurt, and he was hurt by Derevyanchenko.


“So I think he will be a strong favorite against Kamil Szeremeta, but when I look forward to a third fight with Canelo or a fight against Demetrius Andrade or a rematch against Daniel Jacobs or a fight against Jermall Charlo, I wouldn’t make Golovkin the favorite in any of those fights.

“I wouldn’t say that as recently as two years ago. Two years ago, he was still a middleweight destroyer.

“I think those two Canelo fights took something out of Golovkin and left him more vulnerable to those top middleweights.”

It’s quite obvious that Golovkin hasn’t looked spectacular in his two fights since his loss to Canelo in 2018.

Golovkin was getting hammered at times in his fight against Steve Rolls last year, and the aforementioned Derevyanchenko came close to beating him. But on the positive side, there’s nothing wrong with Golovkin’s punching power.

He’s still just as powerful as he’s always been. The only drop off is his hand speed and work rate. They both appear to be less than what they used to be.

“Look, you just repeated exactly what I said,” Mora said. “He’s 38-years-old, and he got hurt. That’s the only thing people are thinking about right now [about Golovkin].

“They’re focusing on the fact that he’s 38, and you seen him hurt to the body against Derevyanchenko, and he’s a strong, elite fighter. He’s not a champion, but he fights and gives everything he has on a championship level.

“Let him have another Steve Rolls type of performance. Let him start destroying people like he was on the way up. He wasn’t knocking out champions.

“He was knocking out these types of contenders. Let him keep doing that, and then we’re going to erase everything that happened in the past. That’s exactly how boxing works with short-term memory with one great performance.”

“Okay, would you make him a favorite against any of the top middleweights?” Mannix asked about Golovkin.

“No, because I’m not a bookmaker, but he will be a threat,” said Mora about GGG. “You ask me if he’s going to be a threat. He’s going to be a threat against all these middleweights because he has power.”

Golovkin would have been better off if he’d boxed Derevyanchenko more rather than slugged because he was getting the better of the action when he was on the outside. Derevanchenko was able to close the distance and work on Golovkin’s midsection in close.

“The point is, he goes from being a heavy favorite against virtually everyone I mentioned to being an underdog, and that’s my whole point,” said Mannix about Gennadiy.

“We’ve seen tough fights take something out of fighters. I think that tough fight against Golovkin took something out of Derevyanchenko in his fight Jermall Charlo.

“I think the two tough fights against Canelo took something out of Gennadiy Golovkin that he’s not going to get back. On top of that, I never loved the pairing with [trainer] Johnathon Banks.

“I never understood why he would go away from Abel Sanchez, who got him to that level, and who’s only blemish on that resume was a close loss to Canelo Alvarez, arguably a top pound-for-pound fighter in the world.

“You bring in Johnathon Banks, and Banks is a top trainer, don’t get me wrong, but he’s trying to do different things with Golovkin. I don’t think that you do that to a fighter at this stage in their careers.

“If I was Golovkin and money seemed to be the primary issue that broke up him and Abel Sanchez, I would have figured that part of it out and maintained a consistent camp that’s been a successful camp throughout my entire career.”

Against Canelo, Demetrius Andrade, and Jermall Charlo, Golovkin would likely be the underdog. Golovkin may beat Charlo and Andrade, but it would be difficult for him to get a decision against Canelo.

“Listen, 10% of a $100 million is a lot of money to be giving away if your Golovkin,” said Mora about GGG severing ties with trainer Abel Sanchez.

“It was strictly a business choice. And it was disloyalty, and I don’t agree with it, but this was neither here nor there. It was a business decision. But we’ve seen Golovkin somewhat struggle with boxers.

“I’m thinking right now while you’re talking. Willie Monroe was having success, and this was the prime Golovkin, the destructive Golovkin, but he’s human.

“He’s not a machine, and if he was a machine, all machines break down at one point or another. I give him a break because he still has power. I still have faith in him with the best.”


Thoughts? :confused:

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 04:58
by Enlightened-One
For the record, De La Hoya has consistently maintained that he was serious about considering a comeback to boxing ever since December 2017, but his claims were always dismissed until April of this year, due to him getting back in shape and also constantly discussing it with the media.


And let’s not forget that one of the issues that triggered Canelo’s lawsuit against GBP and DAZN, was Alvarez’s inability to receive his contractually-stipulated $35m minimum purse guarantee per bout, due to his desire to face (or having fought) non-premium opposition, such as: Danny Jacobs, Sergey Kovalev, Billy Joe Saunders, Callum Smith etc.

And the only names that DAZN considered as being premium opponents, were: GGG; Jorge Masvidal; Khabib Nurmagomedov; and Oscar De La Hoya.

A few days ago, it was claimed that GGG was in the midst of restructuring the terms of his $100m six-fight deal deal with DAZN.

After he’s competed in the Szeremeta mismatch, Golovkin will only have three bouts remaining.

Assuming one of his opponents will be Canelo, who’s to say he won't consider fighting De La Hoya, especially if DAZN already regard the Golden Boy as being a “premium” opponent?

After all, Team GGG have previously called out fighters that have been retired for more than three years.

And I'm guessing those two marquee bouts will sandwich an interim fight against a journeyman.

Golovkin’s on the cusp of turning 39 years of age and the prospect of receiving a massive payday to engage in another mismatch will surely be far too tempting for him to resist!!! :lol:

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 17:35
by Perseus
Refresh my memory EO.

Who were the three years out of the ring boxers GGG called out?

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 18:50
by adislav123
problem is, when all the gear oscar's on right now wears off, reality will kick in and it suddenly won't seem such a great idea anymore.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 18:52
by Enlightened-One
Perseus wrote: 25 Nov 2020, 17:35 Refresh my memory EO.

Who were the three years out of the ring boxers GGG called out?
Tom Loeffler called out Carl Froch in 2017, after the Brit’s final bout during 2014.

This was back in the days when Abel Sanchez and Tom Loeffler dealt with the media, due to Gennadiy’s poor English.

I can’t remember the precise details but Froch said he’d only take a catchweight 172lbs bout, which was apparently too heavy for GGG.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 18:56
by gilgamesh
De La Hoya coming back to fight Golovkin would be hilarious.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 19:17
by adislav123
would be one hilarious round for as long as it may last.

interesting to see how oscar deals with the panic the moment golovkin connects with a heavy hand.

does he freeze, run or will he collapse on the spot?

all the steroids in the world won't turn back time 15 years.

oscar's literally juiced out of his mind.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 19:31
by Enlightened-One
GBP lost their cash cow now that Canelo left its stable.

DAZN consider De La Hoya as a “premium” opponent, which means they’re willing to pay big bucks to stage his fights.

GGG is being forced to renegotiate his deal with DAZN.

And to avoid a pay cut, he’ll be “encouraged” to fight “premium” opponents.

The biggest payday for Golovkin after Canelo will inevitably be De La Hoya.

If DAZN decides to cover this fight, I reckon GGG will carry De La Hoya, much akin to how Mayweather carried McGregor or how Golovkin carried Kell Brook.

It’s a business arrangement, this fight will line the pockets of DAZN, GGG and De La Hoya, so there’s no need for anyone to get hurt or their legacies/reputations tarnished badly.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 19:42
by gilgamesh
I don't think Golovkin carried Kell Brook. Kell Brook's success in the early going was legitimate.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 21:52
by Perseus
Enlightened-One wrote: 25 Nov 2020, 18:52
Perseus wrote: 25 Nov 2020, 17:35 Refresh my memory EO.

Who were the three years out of the ring boxers GGG called out?
Tom Loeffler called out Carl Froch in 2017, after the Brit’s final bout during 2014.

This was back in the days when Abel Sanchez and Tom Loeffler dealt with the media, due to Gennadiy’s poor English.

I can’t remember the precise details but Froch said he’d only take a catchweight 172lbs bout, which was apparently too heavy for GGG.
:TU:

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 25 Nov 2020, 23:42
by H8Usernames
If De La Hoya is serious about a GGG bout then he should first spark out a hopeless fighter or two.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 02:34
by IKSRTFO
Cocaine is a helluva drug. But one things for sure, if goes through with it, he has more balls than Mayweather.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 02:38
by punchy1
if Oscar is serious, he should ease back into the pool rather than jump in and get knocked out by a Triple G

Tell him to call me.. I'm as old as him and fought a few weeks ago, and although my record is pretty damn good, I am no Triple G, that's for sure.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 03:56
by Onetimeonly
Lol that ggg vs dlh would fill any pockets. Eo keeps getting dumber.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 04:23
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: 25 Nov 2020, 19:42 I don't think Golovkin carried Kell Brook. Kell Brook's success in the early going was legitimate.
For the first 80 seconds of the GGG-Brook fight, the Kazakh fighter punished the Brit, who was rocked severely, to the point that he desperately had to cling on for dear life.

Golovkin then clearly appeared to intentionally take his foot off the gas, which encouraged Brook to return fire. In my mind, there is no evidence to suggest that GGG needed to take a breather. He simply took a step back, regrouped and stalked his prey.

Golovkin then appeared to have been going through the motions until round five, despite being deprived of what superficially appeared to be a legitimate knockdown during the early stages of the third round. He seemed to have coasted for much of this contest.

GGG appeared to enter the fifth round with renewed vigour, seemingly-determined to close the show. And when the ref forced Kell to stop persistently clinching, Golovkin unloaded a barrage of punches on his exhausted victim. He essentially closed the show as soon as he decided to put his foot back on the gas!

Watch the fight again and try to avoid getting influenced by the roar of the crowd.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 04:29
by Enlightened-One
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Nov 2020, 03:56 Lol that ggg vs dlh would fill any pockets. Eo keeps getting dumber.
Do you genuinely believe that Oscar De La Hoya, a man that generated $430m PPV revenue (adjusted for inflation) for his bouts against Trinidad, Mayweather & Pacquiao, couldn't attract a lot of people to subscribe to DAZN to watch the GGG mismatch?

Is that what you sincerely believe? :lol:

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 04:39
by Onetimeonly
Of course not. Canelo vs GGG couldn't get a ton of subscribers. Lol, you must think Tyson vs Jones will do a million. Your stupidity is astounding.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 04:41
by gilgamesh
Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Nov 2020, 04:29
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Nov 2020, 03:56 Lol that ggg vs dlh would fill any pockets. Eo keeps getting dumber.
Do you genuinely believe that Oscar De La Hoya, a man that generated $430m PPV revenue (adjusted for inflation) for his bouts against Trinidad, Mayweather & Pacquiao, couldn't attract a lot of people to subscribe to DAZN to watch the GGG mismatch?

Is that what you sincerely believe? :lol:
I would think most people that would buy an Oscar De La Hoya fight in 2020 would be the same people that bought his fight in 2008 when Manny Pacquiao beat the ever loving sh*t out of him with ease.

Most of those people would know his comeback ain't a good idea.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 05:00
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Nov 2020, 04:41
Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Nov 2020, 04:29
Onetimeonly wrote: 26 Nov 2020, 03:56 Lol that ggg vs dlh would fill any pockets. Eo keeps getting dumber.
Do you genuinely believe that Oscar De La Hoya, a man that generated $430m PPV revenue (adjusted for inflation) for his bouts against Trinidad, Mayweather & Pacquiao, couldn't attract a lot of people to subscribe to DAZN to watch the GGG mismatch?

Is that what you sincerely believe? :lol:
I would think most people that would buy an Oscar De La Hoya fight in 2020 would be the same people that bought his fight in 2008 when Manny Pacquiao beat the ever loving sh*t out of him with ease.

Most of those people would know his comeback ain't a good idea.
The comeback isn’t a good idea from a legacy and health perspective, but it would be good for business.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 05:59
by Onetimeonly
More lies from the lying liar.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 09:14
by gilgamesh
Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Nov 2020, 05:00
gilgamesh wrote: 26 Nov 2020, 04:41
Enlightened-One wrote: 26 Nov 2020, 04:29
Do you genuinely believe that Oscar De La Hoya, a man that generated $430m PPV revenue (adjusted for inflation) for his bouts against Trinidad, Mayweather & Pacquiao, couldn't attract a lot of people to subscribe to DAZN to watch the GGG mismatch?

Is that what you sincerely believe? :lol:
I would think most people that would buy an Oscar De La Hoya fight in 2020 would be the same people that bought his fight in 2008 when Manny Pacquiao beat the ever loving sh*t out of him with ease.

Most of those people would know his comeback ain't a good idea.
The comeback isn’t a good idea from a legacy and health perspective, but it would be good for business.
I mean it'd get more views than Golovkin vs Salizbury or whoever the f*ck he's fighting next :lol:

I imagine the amount of money they'd have to pay Oscar to get him to comeback would make it non profitable for anyone putting the fight on.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 09:20
by DrDuke
They'll provide the Coke Drama Show.

Re: De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021

Posted: 26 Nov 2020, 09:46
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote: 25 Nov 2020, 04:42 "De La Hoya wants Golovkin fight in early 2021"

Oscar De La Hoya says that Gennadiy Golovkin is someone he’s interested in fighting for his comeback match in the first quarter of 2021.

It’s a longshot at best for the aging promoter De La Hoya to try and convince GGG to fight him next year. If there weren’t a potential third fight against Canelo Alvarez for Golovkin, De La Hoya would have a decent shot at getting a fight against him.

But the fact remains, Golovkin and Canelo could be fighting next May on DAZN, and both will make a lot of money for that fight. In other words, Golovkin doesn’t need De La Hoya.

The fighters that De La Hoya should be calling out are Floyd Mayweather Jr and Manny Pacquiao. This is right up Mayweather’s alley to fight De La Hoya again. They could make it an exhibition match and peddle it to the public at a price tag of $100 per household on pay-per-view. Good luck with that.

De La Hoya last fought in 2008, and he would have to shed some pounds for him to get in fighting shape to face GGG or whoever. For some reason, De La Hoya only wants to fight a top fighter for his comeback rather than a journeyman or a regular contender to build his confidence.

De La Hoya’s comeback talk has ‘money grab’ written all over it, but that’s for the public to decide. If they think De La Hoya is just coming back for the money, they won’t bother watching it

The 47-year-old De La Hoya (39-6, 30 KOs) is still serious about wanting to return to the ring after 12 years of living the easy life in retirement.

Interestingly, De La Hoya isn’t talking about wanting to take a tune-up the way that normal fighters do when returning to the ring after many years.

De La Hoya wants to go straight into a big fight against a top fighter like GGG without any warm-up, which is obviously strange, but this is what he wants.

If money is the main reason for De La Hoya making a comeback, it makes sense for him to call out the 38-year-old IBF middleweight champion Golovkin (40-1-1, 35 KOs).

DAZN would likely jump at the idea of GGG facing De La Hoya, even though it would a circus level fight.

“I’m looking to make a comeback first quarter next year, real fight. Regarding opponents, somebody today mentioned somebody that really intrigued me,” said De La Hoya to The Ak & Barak Show @SiriusXMBoxing.

“I’ll tell you, I mean guys like GGG. Guys with that style I took apart no problem. We’ll see.”

“I think the two tough fights against Canelo took something out of Gennadiy Golovkin that I don’t think he gets back,” said Chris Mannix.

“He now goes from being a heavy favorite against anyone he gets in the ring with to being at best an underdog. GGG will fight Kamil Szeremeta on December 18th.

“This will be Golovkin’s first fight in over a year, and the middleweight champion turned 38 back in April. Is Gennadiy Golovkin still a threat to the top middleweights?”

“Yes, and it’s funny how we start questioning this monster, and it wasn’t even a bad performance, but it was one where you seen him hurt,” said Sergio Mora.

“You finally seen Superman get rocked, and you think he’s done. You look at his age; he’s 38; he doesn’t have his legs. Power is the last thing to go. He never relied on his legs.

“Yes, he’s still going to be a threat, and yes, he’s going to be still going to be a devastating puncher. All we need to do is see it against another opponent.

“If he knocks out Szeremeta like he did Steve Rolls, he’s back in business. ‘The Big Drama Show’ returns, It’s power, man; people love knockouts. Once he gets it, people forget about the bad performances.”

GGG wasn’t hurt by headshots from Derevyanchenko. They were body shots, and he definitely struggled with them.

What really made Golovkin look bad was how he was outworked by Derevyanchenko most of the fight, especially in the later rounds. Although GGG was landing big shots, he was frequently missing with punches that would have done a lot of damage to Derevyanchenko if he’d connected.

Derevyanchenko was still beaten up badly and was a bleeding mess at the end of the fight. You can argue that the punishment Derevyanchenko took against Golovkin was one of the reasons he performed so poorly against Jermall Charlo in his last match.

“I’m not so sure because he’s 38-years-old, and in recent fights, he’s been getting hit a lot more than he used to,” said Mannix about Golovkin.

“Go back to Canelo part 2, where he was hit a lot by Canelo Alvarez. Canelo walked through his power and landed some big shots on him. Fast forward to Steve Rolls.

Yes, Golovkin picked up a knockout in that fight, but Rolls got to him a few times, especially in the second round, where Rolls was definitely an inferior opponent to Golovkin.

“And then against a guy like Sergiy Derevyanchenko, Derevyanchenko hurt him. That was the first time I remember seeing Gennadiy Golovkin hurt, and he was hurt by Derevyanchenko.


“So I think he will be a strong favorite against Kamil Szeremeta, but when I look forward to a third fight with Canelo or a fight against Demetrius Andrade or a rematch against Daniel Jacobs or a fight against Jermall Charlo, I wouldn’t make Golovkin the favorite in any of those fights.

“I wouldn’t say that as recently as two years ago. Two years ago, he was still a middleweight destroyer.

“I think those two Canelo fights took something out of Golovkin and left him more vulnerable to those top middleweights.”

It’s quite obvious that Golovkin hasn’t looked spectacular in his two fights since his loss to Canelo in 2018.

Golovkin was getting hammered at times in his fight against Steve Rolls last year, and the aforementioned Derevyanchenko came close to beating him. But on the positive side, there’s nothing wrong with Golovkin’s punching power.

He’s still just as powerful as he’s always been. The only drop off is his hand speed and work rate. They both appear to be less than what they used to be.

“Look, you just repeated exactly what I said,” Mora said. “He’s 38-years-old, and he got hurt. That’s the only thing people are thinking about right now [about Golovkin].

“They’re focusing on the fact that he’s 38, and you seen him hurt to the body against Derevyanchenko, and he’s a strong, elite fighter. He’s not a champion, but he fights and gives everything he has on a championship level.

“Let him have another Steve Rolls type of performance. Let him start destroying people like he was on the way up. He wasn’t knocking out champions.

“He was knocking out these types of contenders. Let him keep doing that, and then we’re going to erase everything that happened in the past. That’s exactly how boxing works with short-term memory with one great performance.”

“Okay, would you make him a favorite against any of the top middleweights?” Mannix asked about Golovkin.

“No, because I’m not a bookmaker, but he will be a threat,” said Mora about GGG. “You ask me if he’s going to be a threat. He’s going to be a threat against all these middleweights because he has power.”

Golovkin would have been better off if he’d boxed Derevyanchenko more rather than slugged because he was getting the better of the action when he was on the outside. Derevanchenko was able to close the distance and work on Golovkin’s midsection in close.

“The point is, he goes from being a heavy favorite against virtually everyone I mentioned to being an underdog, and that’s my whole point,” said Mannix about Gennadiy.

“We’ve seen tough fights take something out of fighters. I think that tough fight against Golovkin took something out of Derevyanchenko in his fight Jermall Charlo.

“I think the two tough fights against Canelo took something out of Gennadiy Golovkin that he’s not going to get back. On top of that, I never loved the pairing with [trainer] Johnathon Banks.

“I never understood why he would go away from Abel Sanchez, who got him to that level, and who’s only blemish on that resume was a close loss to Canelo Alvarez, arguably a top pound-for-pound fighter in the world.

“You bring in Johnathon Banks, and Banks is a top trainer, don’t get me wrong, but he’s trying to do different things with Golovkin. I don’t think that you do that to a fighter at this stage in their careers.

“If I was Golovkin and money seemed to be the primary issue that broke up him and Abel Sanchez, I would have figured that part of it out and maintained a consistent camp that’s been a successful camp throughout my entire career.”

Against Canelo, Demetrius Andrade, and Jermall Charlo, Golovkin would likely be the underdog. Golovkin may beat Charlo and Andrade, but it would be difficult for him to get a decision against Canelo.

“Listen, 10% of a $100 million is a lot of money to be giving away if your Golovkin,” said Mora about GGG severing ties with trainer Abel Sanchez.

“It was strictly a business choice. And it was disloyalty, and I don’t agree with it, but this was neither here nor there. It was a business decision. But we’ve seen Golovkin somewhat struggle with boxers.

“I’m thinking right now while you’re talking. Willie Monroe was having success, and this was the prime Golovkin, the destructive Golovkin, but he’s human.

“He’s not a machine, and if he was a machine, all machines break down at one point or another. I give him a break because he still has power. I still have faith in him with the best.”


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