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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 07:14
by aicheligad
Current list:

1. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Tyson Fury - 30(21) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 23(21) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 12.12.2020 vs πŸ‡§πŸ‡¬ Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 1(1) 0 - (#10)

3. πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί Alexander Povetkin - 36(25) 2(1) 1 - next fight: TBA

4. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 1(1) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Oleksandr Usyk - 18(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dillian Whyte - 27(18) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Michael Hunter - 18(12) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 18.12.2020 vs πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Chauncy Welliver - 57(23) 13(4) 5 - (BoxRec's #384)

9. πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ Joseph Parker - 27(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. πŸ‡§πŸ‡¬ Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 12.12.2020 vs πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 23(21) 1(1) 0 - (#2)

11. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Luis Ortiz - 32(27) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 10(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce - 12(11) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

14. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄ Γ“scar Rivas - 26(18) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ Agit Kabayel - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

Question A: How are the rankings affected by πŸ‡«πŸ‡· Tony Yoka's UD 10 win over πŸ‡·πŸ‡΄ Christian Hammer?

My vote: Yoka remains unranked, Hammer remains unranked.

Question B: How are the rankings affected by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce's KO 10 win over πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Daniel Dubois?

My vote: Joyce to #12, Dubois remains unranked.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 07:15
by aicheligad
I have won almost 1000$ on Joyce vs Dubois :bag:

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 07:19
by joshj909
Joyce to 11. Yoka unranked.

Yoka is about 1 more mid-European level victory from breaking into the top 15.

Although I think Chisora should be ranked above Joyce, Joyce and Ortiz share a best win in Jennings, and I think Joyce's next best victories are probably superior to the rest of Ortiz's.


Also, it's a shame more of these guys don't have anything scheduled. You'd think they would all want something booked as soon as possible now that it's easier to get something sorted.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 07:20
by DrDuke
Joyce to 10.

Dubois, Yoka and Hammer remain out of top 15.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 09:35
by Pukka Cheese
Joyce to 11.
Yoka unranked but close...

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 10:34
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
Yoka to #15
Joyce to #11

Hammer and Dubois remain unranked.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 17:19
by gregregegg
Joyce to 10. Yoka to 15.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 19:12
by oogiebe
Joyce to 11...Yoka unchanged.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 29 Nov 2020, 19:27
by margaret thatcher
yoka 15
joyce 9

a win over dub is simply bigger than pretty much anything the other guys have done lately, and joyce has some other okay results to add to it

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 05:09
by Belanio
Question A: How are the rankings affected by πŸ‡«πŸ‡· Tony Yoka's UD 10 win over πŸ‡·πŸ‡΄ Christian Hammer?

My vote: Yoka to #8, Hammer remains unranked.

Question B: How are the rankings affected by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce's KO 10 win over πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Daniel Dubois?

My vote: Joyce to #10, Dubois remains unranked.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 06:54
by morm
Joyce to 10
Yoka to 15

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 16:00
by stpeach
Question A: How are the rankings affected by πŸ‡«πŸ‡· Tony Yoka's UD 10 win over πŸ‡·πŸ‡΄ Christian Hammer?

My vote: Yoka remains unranked, Hammer remains unranked.

Question B: How are the rankings affected by πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce's KO 10 win over πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Daniel Dubois?

My vote: Joyce to #11, Dubois remains unranked.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 01 Dec 2020, 13:38
by aicheligad
Bump.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 03 Dec 2020, 23:45
by Finkel
Sorry, this one's a bit late, just had chance to sit down and watch the Yoka-Hammer fight.

Yoka and Hammer both remain unranked

Yoka-Hammer, that was a weird one. I really liked Yoka's clean punches especially his straights to the body. But he was getting out muscled a lot by Hammer and seemed weak in the clinch; dropping to the floor (under instruction from his corner) 4 times in 3 rounds. Hammer was clearly brought in to give Yoka rounds, but in all honesty had that been a neutral venue, Hammer would have probably gotten a draw or the nod. So I don't think Yoka is ready for top 15 just yet. But this was good experience for Yoka.

Joyce to 11 and Dubois remains unranked

Impressive performance by Joyce in a fight that he was clearly set to be robbed in (had he allowed it to go the distance). Joyce's punch speed makes for amusing memes, but I think people have been sleeping on this guy because of all the jokes.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 10:04
by Gnome
aicheligad wrote: ↑29 Nov 2020, 07:15 I have won almost 1000$ on Joyce vs Dubois :bag:
Nice work! What was your bet?

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 04 Dec 2020, 19:08
by Finkel
Gnome wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 10:04
aicheligad wrote: ↑29 Nov 2020, 07:15 I have won almost 1000$ on Joyce vs Dubois :bag:
Nice work! What was your bet?
Curious too.

I heard after the fact sites like 888sport.com had Joyce at 25-1 for the win! Which is ridiculous. Let alone the odds for a late round stoppage.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 07:39
by Heretic
I still havent had time to watch the Yoka vs Hammer fully. I will go with just the name wvalue this time.

Yoka to #15.

Hammer is decent win. I like active boxers on the list.

Joyce to #11

DDD is really good win. Proves that Joyce belongs to the list. I had him in top 15 already before this fight.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 13:48
by aicheligad
Finkel wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 19:08
Gnome wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 10:04
aicheligad wrote: ↑29 Nov 2020, 07:15 I have won almost 1000$ on Joyce vs Dubois :bag:
Nice work! What was your bet?
Curious too.

I heard after the fact sites like 888sport.com had Joyce at 25-1 for the win! Which is ridiculous. Let alone the odds for a late round stoppage.
25$ on Joyce win, 25$ on Joyce win by stoppage, 50$ on Joyce win by stoppage in rounds 10-12

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 05 Dec 2020, 13:51
by aicheligad
Finkel wrote: ↑03 Dec 2020, 23:45 Sorry, this one's a bit late, just had chance to sit down and watch the Yoka-Hammer fight.

Yoka and Hammer both remain unranked

Yoka-Hammer, that was a weird one. I really liked Yoka's clean punches especially his straights to the body. But he was getting out muscled a lot by Hammer and seemed weak in the clinch; dropping to the floor (under instruction from his corner) 4 times in 3 rounds. Hammer was clearly brought in to give Yoka rounds, but in all honesty had that been a neutral venue, Hammer would have probably gotten a draw or the nod. So I don't think Yoka is ready for top 15 just yet. But this was good experience for Yoka.

Joyce to 11 and Dubois remains unranked

Impressive performance by Joyce in a fight that he was clearly set to be robbed in (had he allowed it to go the distance). Joyce's punch speed makes for amusing memes, but I think people have been sleeping on this guy because of all the jokes.
Totally agree with that. Joyce is very decent, hard-hitting, very durable fighter with a good jab.

Re: BoxRec HW Top 15 ranking update - Yoka vs Hammer, Joyce vs Dubois

Posted: 06 Dec 2020, 16:59
by aicheligad
The voting is over - πŸ‡«πŸ‡· Tony Yoka, πŸ‡·πŸ‡΄ Christian Hammer and πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Daniel Dubois remain unranked, πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce moves up to #11.

Current list:

1. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Tyson Fury - 30(21) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 23(21) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 12.12.2020 vs πŸ‡§πŸ‡¬ Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 1(1) 0 - (#10)

3. πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί Alexander Povetkin - 36(25) 2(1) 1 - next fight: TBA

4. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 1(1) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Oleksandr Usyk - 18(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dillian Whyte - 27(18) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Michael Hunter - 18(12) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 18.12.2020 vs πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Chauncy Welliver - 57(23) 13(4) 5 - (BoxRec's #384)

9. πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ Joseph Parker - 27(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. πŸ‡§πŸ‡¬ Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 12.12.2020 vs πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 23(21) 1(1) 0 - (#2)

11. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce - 12(11) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Luis Ortiz - 32(27) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 10(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄ Γ“scar Rivas - 26(18) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ Agit Kabayel - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA