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With all this talk of a Lennox Lewis, does anyone think Bruno was serious when he talked about making a return to fight Audley Harrison. Or was that just a grandstand challenge he didn't expect to be accepted?

Did the troubles he had last year change his mind?

ILikeBeer wrote:With all this talk of a Lennox Lewis, does anyone think Bruno was serious when he talked about making a return to fight Audley Harrison. Or was that just a grandstand challenge he didn't expect to be accepted?

Did the troubles he had last year change his mind?

Bruno by all accounts was a very depressed man with many personal and emotional problems when talking about a comeback the other year.

They were just the cries of a lost soul searching for a meaning and direction in his life.

KOJOE90 wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:With all this talk of a Lennox Lewis, does anyone think Bruno was serious when he talked about making a return to fight Audley Harrison. Or was that just a grandstand challenge he didn't expect to be accepted?

Did the troubles he had last year change his mind?

Bruno by all accounts was a very depressed man with many personal and emotional problems when talking about a comeback the other year.

They were just the cries of a lost soul searching for a meaning and direction in his life.

Agree

yes that is a good summary of what he was going through. I am pleased to hear that he is doing ok and sure many other people share the same feelings.

Whatever people may say of him, by which i mean the scum of the tabloid press in the Uk, he is a well liked man.

Get Well soon Bruno.

I think Bruno has struggled since retiring. Unfortunately when you are a boxer, and always have fights to train for it becomes your life, and in Brunos case became his purpose for being.

When he was forced into retirement, his purpose for existing went and that was what got him down. Shame.

Also a pity about his eye letting him down. I'd have liked to see Frank Bruno get in the ring one more time. I'd mark big time for Frank Bruno vs Audley Harrison which was what was proposed.

robert.snell1 wrote:yes that is a good summary of what he was going through. I am pleased to hear that he is doing ok and sure many other people share the same feelings.

Whatever people may say of him, by which i mean the scum of the tabloid press in the Uk, he is a well liked man.

I remember The Sun (a national tabloid paper in Britain), ran a very unfunny headline on its front page about Bruno's illness.

The next day The Sun had to write a grovelling apologie and make a donation to a charity for mental illness, they did this because of the outcry over the previous headline. The British people love a person that try's their hardest to acheive , even if they don't win all the time.

Bruno is certainly well loved in the UK

I am very proud to say I have not bought a copy of The Sun in many a year.

KOJOE90 wrote:I am very proud to say I have not bought a copy of The Sun in many a year.

The Sun - pulp for the masses

KOJOE90 wrote:I am very proud to say I have not bought a copy of The Sun in many a year.

I've never bought that paper, and I never will!

I think there is a programme on the bbc tonight (maybe next week) about The Sun saying sorry to Liverpool for the disgusting comments they made after Hillsborough. Sales in Merseyside are down significantly to the rest of the country.
The Sun is scum and their headline on Bruno's mental health problems only proved this further.

The Sun should be renamed The Scum... because thats what they are and they pander to the lowest instincts of the common man.

Hey Silkov, before you talk about something else, would you please tell me how tall is Harry "Kid" Matthews standing in height?

Anyone else hear remember all that talk of a Bruno V Mercer fight? I was sort of glad when that fight didn't happen. Unless Mercer turned in one of his sluggish performances I always felt he was all wrong for Bruno.

If the Mercer that fought Lennox Lewis turned up against Bruno I believe he had the chin and toughness to weather the early Bruno assault and stop Bruno late on.

Bruno had a somewhat underated jab but so did Mercer. Bruno was the bigger hitter but Mercer had the chin to take those shots. However I believe Mercer had the power to hurt Bruno.

An in form Mercer was all wrong for Big Frank in my opinion.

Hey KOJOE,how are you brother.Is the sun still shining in Leicester.Did you know Shaun Cummings is in a wheelchair.

I agree with you there,was the fight scheduled for early 95 ? Mercer would have worn down big Frank pretty emphatically and would have probably taken him out in the later rounds.Poor Frank as much as we loved him he was very limited,The big punching stiff,but thanks for the memories u gave us in the ring and hope he makes a full recovery.Panto will never be the same without big "know what i mean" Frank Bruno

mozzainoz wrote:Hey KOJOE,how are you brother.Is the sun still shining in Leicester.Did you know Shaun Cummings is in a wheelchair

Hi mate, Leicester is still good thanks. I was at The Charlotte again last week.

Yes I had heard the bad news about Shaun Cummings, he was a good fighter. The last I heard they were trying to organise some sort of benefit night for him.

Hopefully it will be a sucsess and it will give the guy an emotional lift.

Bruno was another one of those guys who I would put in the "too nice of a guy to be champ" catagory.

Frank was basically someone who all the physical attributes and athletic gifts to be a great fighter.
The notion that he had a bad chin was a bum rap. He was capable of taking huge punches. Unfortunately he tended to take them in Bunches sometimes

Aside from his very last fight, Big Frank always put in a great competative effort against all comers.
He only had one real bad fight in his career and wisely decided to hang em up aftyer that

However, he lacked the viciousness that came naturally to guys like Tyson and Holyfield, thats why he never quite made it all the way to the top

"The Sun" is scum they ae owned by Rupert Murdoch , who is one of the rottenest guys on the planet.

How was Bruno forced into retirement? Did something happen in Tyson rematch?

It's strange but I think for a number of reasons Frank is very underrated these days... people seem all to quick to dismiss him as just a big softie who could punch a bit but thats about all... but Frank was much better than that. He had a great punch but also a good jab and a good chin... his losses all came at the hands of world champions... even Bonecrusher would go on to win a world title. Many people criticise Brunos opposition and while its true he did fight some stiffs (Gardner and Gross!) he also fought and defeated plenty of good opposition... indeed his early opposition puts Audley Harrisons to shame.
More than anything else there was always an air of excitement when Bruno fought far more than there ever was with Lennox Lewis.
And many people seem to forget that Bruno came close to beating a peak Lewis before running into one.
I think Bruno the fighter deserves more respect than he is usually given.

Max Molyneux wrote:How was Bruno forced into retirement? Did something happen in Tyson rematch?

He got a detatched retina mate.

Bruno had previously got a torn retina in the same eye many years ago but managed to keep his Boxing Licence after sucsessfull surgery. Big Frank has had a history of eye problems after winning the Heavyweight ABA's his proffesional debut was delayed by about a year, as he was short sighted in one eye. The money men behind Bruno (Duff/Lawless etc) in order for him to pass the BBBofC eye test paid for him to be operated on by one of the Worlds top eye surgens I seem to recall the operation took place in Peru.

Intersting side note, Brunos two Heavyweight stable mates Gary Mason and the undefeated Horice Notice both retired with detached retinas as well.

Man what brave fella to fight with eye problems. Only champs ever beat him too.

zurdo wrote:The notion that he had a bad chin was a bum rap. He was capable of taking huge punches. Unfortunately he tended to take them in Bunches sometimes .

I agree, I've had so many arguments over the years with people who said Frank Bruno had a glass jaw. Fighters with glass jaws don't give quality punchers like Lewis, Smith and Witherspoon lomg tough fights.

Bruno at world level had an ok chin it's just that his stamina wasn't the best due to those huge muscles of his. Also he lacked the techniquie to clutch and hold when hurt. When he took a big shot late in a fight it's almost that he mentaly froze for a few seconds, which allowed his opponent to land the finishing shots.

Those last few punches that the Spoon landed on Frank were ugly to watch. From memory Frank was sort of seated on one of the ropes so they were keeping him off the ground. Witherspoon just kept on punching

I like the Sun. Good quality newspaper........

If you think that the Sun is bad, my mate brought a copy of the Daily Sport yesterday, utter drivel.