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is this a travesty guys, now both klit bros are enshrined

Sonny Liston made one successful title defense and got in. Maxie and Ingo couldn't even manage that and got in.

Nah, wlad isn't undeserving like his woeful brother. He should have had to wait, but nothing to cause the bitching you're hunting for.

No surprise there

I really can't see any objection.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Dec 2020, 12:35 Nah, wlad isn't undeserving like his woeful brother. He should have had to wait, but nothing to cause the bitching you're hunting for.

Whats wrong with Vitali?

BitPlayer wrote: ↑16 Dec 2020, 13:21 I really can't see any objection.

+1.
I see no reason why he shouldn't be in there.

Trent wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 00:11

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Dec 2020, 12:35 Nah, wlad isn't undeserving like his woeful brother. He should have had to wait, but nothing to cause the bitching you're hunting for.

Whats wrong with Vitali?

No resume

All are deserving.

But Im disappointed that once again Santos Laciar, Wilfredo Vazquez Sr., Jose Luis Ramirez, Alfredo Escalera, Rodrigo Valdez, Samuel Serrano, Carlos De Leon, Juan Martin Coggi, Jiro Watanabe, Gilberto Roman, Marvin Johnson, Genaro Hernandez and a few others have been overlooked. They all deserve it as well.

Im starting to think maybe Ed Brophy deserves to get in as well for his years servicing boxing through the Hall of Fame.

And I am glad to see George Kimball get in. I have a book signed by him to me. A true gentleman!

Wlad deserves it for 100%. How on earth it can be arguable?

DrDuke wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 04:47 Wlad deserves it for 100%. How on earth it can be arguable?

Lots of haters that's why they argue. But if excitement in every fight was the requirement, then Muhammad Ali, Macho Camacho, Mayweather and Maxie Rosembloom would all be out. And it would be called "International Hall of Exciting Boxers" instead.

Also, once again, Betulio Gonzalez gets overlooked. This guy should be in all the way. A lot of the champs I mentioned are hated by the writers because of a myriad of reasons like fighting the boxers their organization told them to, not fighting enough in the US and dumb stuff like that.

These boxers were great fighters and circumstances dictate a fighters career some, if not most of, the time. It would be like denying a 3,000 hits batter entry into the baseball hall of fame because he was made to face what the writers perceive as weaker pitching, recently injured pitchers and weak record teams most of the time. But that batter could only face the pitchers who pitched versus him!

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 01:13

Trent wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 00:11

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Dec 2020, 12:35 Nah, wlad isn't undeserving like his woeful brother. He should have had to wait, but nothing to cause the bitching you're hunting for.

Whats wrong with Vitali?

No resume

Oh dear, not again...

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 01:13

Trent wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 00:11

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑16 Dec 2020, 12:35 Nah, wlad isn't undeserving like his woeful brother. He should have had to wait, but nothing to cause the bitching you're hunting for.

Whats wrong with Vitali?

No resume

That's fair enough. Surely wasn't his fault though. Fighting in a weak era. To say he was woeful is just fighter bashing.

Trent wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 12:37

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 01:13

Trent wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 00:11

Whats wrong with Vitali?

No resume

That's fair enough. Surely wasn't his fault though. Fighting in a weak era. To say he was woeful is just fighter bashing.

He fought weak fighters of his weak era. So, yes, it was his fault.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 13:06

Trent wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 12:37

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 01:13

No resume

That's fair enough. Surely wasn't his fault though. Fighting in a weak era. To say he was woeful is just fighter bashing.

He fought weak fighters of his weak era. So, yes, it was his fault.

How could that be his fault? He could only fight what is in front of him.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 13:47

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 13:06

Trent wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 12:37

That's fair enough. Surely wasn't his fault though. Fighting in a weak era. To say he was woeful is just fighter bashing.

He fought weak fighters of his weak era. So, yes, it was his fault.

How could that be his fault? He could only fight what is in front of him.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 13:06

Trent wrote: ↑22 Dec 2020, 12:37

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑17 Dec 2020, 01:13

No resume

That's fair enough. Surely wasn't his fault though. Fighting in a weak era. To say he was woeful is just fighter bashing.

He fought weak fighters of his weak era. So, yes, it was his fault.

Just out of curiosity who did he duck? John Ruiz? Rematch with Byrd?

He earned it.