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DrDuke wrote: ↑19 Dec 2020, 11:36 Hunter to 1. Laughery to 2.

Sorry for my stupid joke, but the no change post was too predictable. I even forgot, that this Thrilla in Galveston, the Texas Boxing Massacre should have been held this weekend.

Finkel wrote: ↑19 Dec 2020, 19:56 Hunter to 11.

Not having a top 10 opponent fighting someone who is now ranked at 300 on boxrec.

If he had fought this guy in October to stay busy when Covid was making fights difficult that's one thing.

But not mid December.

In summary, Laughery (6'0), gets knocked down round 1. Then Hunter starts swinging for the fences for the rounds 2 and 3. Including throwing a wild back hand!
Then in the 4th hunter hits the guy with what looks like two consecutive borderline low blows. The referee acknowledges. But doesn't give Laugherty any time. Laughterty looks exhausted, or still trying to walk off a possible low blow. Hunter pounces, unloads on Laughery. Laughery takes a knee. Hunter measures a shot and hits him while he is down. The referee starts counting, Laughery stays on his knee.

Yeah... Hunter to 11.

keirw wrote: ↑19 Dec 2020, 16:54 Hunter to 7, can't justify putting him above Whyte just yet, but his activity alone should put him above Ruiz.
Which is sad when you think about it, considering Ruiz was unified champ a little over a year ago.

keirw wrote: ↑19 Dec 2020, 16:54 Hunter to 7, can't justify putting him above Whyte just yet, but his activity alone should put him above Ruiz.
Which is sad when you think about it, considering Ruiz was unified champ a little over a year ago.

candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 06:01

keirw wrote: ↑19 Dec 2020, 16:54 Hunter to 7, can't justify putting him above Whyte just yet, but his activity alone should put him above Ruiz.
Which is sad when you think about it, considering Ruiz was unified champ a little over a year ago.

Which is why I think you're wrong. Until Saturday Joshua hadn't fought for a year. I think in the covid climate, we should be much more lenient toward inactivity (no Trevor Bryan, Mahmood Charr, I don't mean serial offenders like you)

As for Dillian Whyte, I wouldn't penalize him too much for the Povetkin loss. He got outmaneuvered by an extremely smart and wily old fox in a fight he was on his way to winning emphatically. If you regularly take on the calibre of opponent that Dillian habitually does, then sooner or later you are going to take a loss, it's no big deal. Back in the day when it was normal to face stiff opposition, fighters took losses and wasn't regarded as deeply meaningful. When you look at Whyte's resumé and the kind of money he's been making, he's been more of a champion than several fighters who have been belt-holders since 2000.

Incidentally that is as good a heavyweight top 15 as I can recall seeing. I guess the advantage the forum has over the regular boxrec rankings is we are not constricted by a set of rules or formulae. My respects to all the contributors

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 05:53

Finkel wrote: ↑19 Dec 2020, 19:56 Hunter to 11.

Not having a top 10 opponent fighting someone who is now ranked at 300 on boxrec.

If he had fought this guy in October to stay busy when Covid was making fights difficult that's one thing.

But not mid December.

In summary, Laughery (6'0), gets knocked down round 1. Then Hunter starts swinging for the fences for the rounds 2 and 3. Including throwing a wild back hand!
Then in the 4th hunter hits the guy with what looks like two consecutive borderline low blows. The referee acknowledges. But doesn't give Laugherty any time. Laughterty looks exhausted, or still trying to walk off a possible low blow. Hunter pounces, unloads on Laughery. Laughery takes a knee. Hunter measures a shot and hits him while he is down. The referee starts counting, Laughery stays on his knee.

Yeah... Hunter to 11.

i don't see how fighting someone like that is any worse than not fighting at all....would you have also moved him down if he'd just sat on his couch eating doritos?

candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 06:01

keirw wrote: ↑19 Dec 2020, 16:54 Hunter to 7, can't justify putting him above Whyte just yet, but his activity alone should put him above Ruiz.
Which is sad when you think about it, considering Ruiz was unified champ a little over a year ago.

Which is why I think you're wrong. Until Saturday Joshua hadn't fought for a year. I think in the covid climate, we should be much more lenient toward inactivity (no Trevor Bryan, Mahmood Charr, I don't mean serial offenders like you)

As for Dillian Whyte, I wouldn't penalize him too much for the Povetkin loss. He got outmaneuvered by an extremely smart and wily old fox in a fight he was on his way to winning emphatically. If you regularly take on the calibre of opponent that Dillian habitually does, then sooner or later you are going to take a loss, it's no big deal. Back in the day when it was normal to face stiff opposition, fighters took losses and wasn't regarded as deeply meaningful. When you look at Whyte's resumé and the kind of money he's been making, he's been more of a champion than several fighters who have been belt-holders since 2000.

Incidentally that is as good a heavyweight top 15 as I can recall seeing. I guess the advantage the forum has over the regular boxrec rankings is we are not constricted by a set of rules or formulae. My respects to all the contributors