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Agree?

100%

is that just based on their fights vs canelo?

tbf i think right now canelo is the best he's been, and liam got dropped like 3-4 time and lost pretty much every round and got stopped by nelo. lost prob 10 rounds to mugnuia too

No, even judging by the Canelo bouts.

He is. He's got a much better jab than Callum. He actually tried to win the Canelo fight whereas Callum was in survival mode for most of the fight.

i think some people forget how bad liam got beat up vs canelo....even if he had a bit more of a go, i wouldnt say that means he's better than cal

Let’s see how Callum does up at 175..

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 01:42 i think some people forget how bad liam got beat up vs canelo....even if he had a bit more of a go, i wouldnt say that means he's better than cal

Exactly. He was just battered, Callum was tougher for sure.

ya people making it out as if liam gave canelo some serious test or something, kid got battered and hurt much worse than cal did, was in agony

i guess since that happened a good few years ago ppl are forgetful. i think canelo is better now too

does losing by 10 points to munguia also show that liam is the best? maybe worse than dennis hogan lol

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 01:47 ya people making it out as if liam gave canelo some serious test or something, kid got battered and hurt much worse than cal did, was in agony

i guess since that happened a good few years ago ppl are forgetful. i think canelo is better now too

does losing by 10 points to munguia also show that liam is the best? maybe worse than dennis hogan lol

No, Liam got battered, but he got battered looking like he was trying. Callum looked like he wasn't trying. He was trying, of course, he simply didn't gave the ability to look like he was.

Does being hoplessly battered, repeatedly dropped, and stopped make you the better fighter, as long as you tried more?

do you think dennis hogan is much better than liam? he did way better vs munguia than liam did

It's fair to say, that Kovalev was better than Callum, but no way Liam was.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 01:55 Does being hoplessly battered, repeatedly dropped, and stopped make you the better fighter, as long as you tried more?

do you think dennis hogan is much better than liam? he did way better vs munguia than liam did

the point of the thread was who is best. if they were both the same size i would pick liam to win a fight between them. he would outjab him easily.

ya people going with this now after comparing their performances, but i dont really see it at all from that

cal has looked sensational vs euro level opposition before, whereas i dont think liam ever has. i also think even the groves cal beat was better than anyone liam beat. liam is solid but very basic

I think people are finally starting to realize how poor callum is

dennis hogan far better than both

callum lost the ryder fight something like 9-3 or 8-4 at the worst.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 02:27 I think people are finally starting to realize how poor callum is

This. He was very lucky in the wbss that he more or less blagged his way to the final then even luckier to find himself in the ring with a completely broken down and crippled groves who should of never been anywhere near a boxing ring at that stage. Every since he was moved up from domestic level to euro level he has looked awful, John Ryder should of been given a unanimous decision against him but was completely robbed

he's pretty comfortably beat every euro level guy he;s faced except ryder; fielding, mouhoumadi, rebrasse, skoglund, sjkojca...2 big first rounds kos (1 over a guy who beat ryder incidentally) and the others he won by like 8-12 points

before that it was brutal ktfos vs domestic level opposition

there's not really this sustained streak of him looking poor and he lost now to arguably the best in the game, one who i believe you leppy also had toying with the likes of ggg. very few would do substantially better

Hopefully Paul smith fights him next to restore the family honour ....

high tower 1 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 04:55 Hopefully Paul smith fights him next to restore the family honour ....

He’s due a shot.

high tower 1 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 04:55 Hopefully Paul smith fights him next to restore the family honour ....

Old Smigga seriously underestimated Canelo. he said he was not being biased when he thought Callum stopped Canelo. That he was too big and strong.

high tower 1 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 04:55 Hopefully Paul smith fights him next to restore the family honour ....

It would have to be at heavyweight after seeing Smigga last night

forcefraser wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 08:11 Old Smigga seriously underestimated Canelo. he said he was not being biased when he thought Callum stopped Canelo. That he was too big and strong.

We need Smigga back. Legend of the board.