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4 young killers, all currently at 135.

All showing a lot of potential, and after last night Garcia may have won me and over. Over the course of the next few years, assuming they all fight each other, who do you think will come out on top?

Exciting times looking ahead and it’s good to note that a few of these lads seem to already be superstars and will put arses on seats and generate interest in the sport

Based on achievements to date Lopez

Based on attributes in the ring Davis

Based on ability to screw the nut and have a long and successful career I’m edging Haney

Garcia will our earn them all

fizzjambo wrote: ↑03 Jan 2021, 11:01 Based on achievements to date Lopez

Based on attributes in the ring Davis

Based on ability to screw the nut and have a long and successful career I’m edging Haney

Garcia will our earn them all

Garcia will out earn them all combined.

I’ll be very interested to see how Lopez comes on, the combination of power, poise and seemingly good or even very good ring craft is intriguing.

Right now I’m higher on Tank’s potential but FFS tank start taking some big fights

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑03 Jan 2021, 12:13 I’ll be very interested to see how Lopez comes on, the combination of power, poise and seemingly good or even very good ring craft is intriguing.

Right now I’m higher on Tank’s potential but FFS tank start taking some big fights

Who last performance was better?
Davis
Lopez
Haney
Garcia?
Id go for,in order of best to worst: Lopez
Davis
Garcia
Haney
Davis k.o of LSC was brilliant,lopez win over loma was a combination of loma not starting quick enough and lopez keeping a pace that loma couldnt catch up with.
Garcia was a good win too stopping a solid Campbell that had gone tge distance with Loma.
Haney going the distance against a well past his sell by date gamboa was the least impressive out the 4 imo mate.

TheGman wrote: ↑03 Jan 2021, 12:35

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑03 Jan 2021, 12:13 I’ll be very interested to see how Lopez comes on, the combination of power, poise and seemingly good or even very good ring craft is intriguing.

Right now I’m higher on Tank’s potential but FFS tank start taking some big fights

Who last performance was better?
Davis
Lopez
Haney
Garcia?
Id go for,in order of best to worst: Lopez
Davis
Garcia
Haney
Davis k.o of LSC was brilliant,lopez win over loma was a combination of loma not starting quick enough and lopez keeping a pace that loma couldnt catch up with.
Garcia was a good win too stopping a solid Campbell that had gone tge distance with Loma.
Haney going the distance against a well past his sell by date gamboa was the least impressive out the 4 imo mate.

Agreed. I think Lopez’s performance showed more boxing maturity than the other 3 put together, though it should be a mild concern for his fans that Loma won the rounds fairly comfortably when he did come forward and let his hands go, given Lomas lack of size and punch at 135, a bigger fighter doing similar stuff could cause Lopez problems

I think the main link between Lopez Garcia and Davis is they can all throw hellacious counters really fast, which will always make all of them dangerous (and produce passive performances like it did with Loma). If a guy is only a threat on the front foot like Wilder at least you can attack with some abandon if you get a brief tactical window. Against these three you could get your head knocked off even trying to exploit a temporary advantage

Personally I think the supposed trouble LSC gave Davis was greatly overrated. Davis worked out he couldn’t just blitz him, patiently broke his body, walked him down, set the trap and sprang it. He was a trifle careless in the early 2 rounds is all, I remember very early he countered LSC jab with a very hard left to the body but momentarily admired it and got punched in the face for his trouble. Once he’d lost his initial overconfidence Davis’s performance was ominously composed IMO

Right now Teo and Tank on tier 1

Haney and Garcia on tier 2

Lopez has 3 or 4 belts depending on who you ask, so gotta have him up to, although its basicaly all down to the Loma win, Id like to see that rematch see if he can do it again, or if he got lucky with an off night and injury for loma..

Tank is 26, he has to start doing some shit, last few fights have been a great 126er, an old injured legend, a noone and a fornicating bantam weight. He 100% passes the eye test, but isnt exactly a proven 135.

Garcia has massive plus's, good size fast as fornicate, powerfull, with a good team Marketable. But also some massive flaws, poor head movement, and flat feet. will have to work on them to mix it with the best.

Haney is very good, but cant even get respect or a fight when he has the WBC world championship belt... Garcia is his mandatory and will probably go else where. Needs a big leg up from Floyd, eddie, DAZN, and find some fans interested in his fights, not really a style for casuals.

Im guessing the exact order will never be fully resolved, but hopefuly some of the match ups do happen. love shakur to join the mix too, but only if he naturally fills out a bit.

Can't decide between Lopez and Tank for the #1 spot. Of course at 135lbs it'd have to be Teofimo, but can see the argument for Tank being a better fighter. Would personally have Haney #3 and Garcia #4 right now.

Tank will bash each of them out.

Garcia is clearly the worst.

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 04:07 Tank will bash each of them out.

Garcia is clearly the worst.

No, he’s not. He’s just stepped up against a very good boxer at 22 years old and won by ko. He’s got huge ability.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:09

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 04:07 Tank will bash each of them out.

Garcia is clearly the worst.

No, he’s not. He’s just stepped up against a very good boxer at 22 years old and won by ko. He’s got huge ability.

This doesn't suggest, that he isn't the worst out of the 4.

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:13

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:09

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 04:07 Tank will bash each of them out.

Garcia is clearly the worst.

No, he’s not. He’s just stepped up against a very good boxer at 22 years old and won by ko. He’s got huge ability.

This doesn't suggest, that he isn't the worst out of the 4.

But you said clearly. He’s already boxed Haney six times, Tank is small at the weight, fair enough, Lopez leads the way. He’s not clearly anything.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:27

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:13

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:09
No, he’s not. He’s just stepped up against a very good boxer at 22 years old and won by ko. He’s got huge ability.

This doesn't suggest, that he isn't the worst out of the 4.

But you said clearly. He’s already boxed Haney six times, Tank is small at the weight, fair enough, Lopez leads the way. He’s not clearly anything.

Yes, he's clearly the worst.

Haney has shown less weaknesses and more class with about the same level of competition.

Tank has beaten better guys and also shown less weaknesses.

Lopez has defeated the best man at that weight.

How it's not clear?

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:32

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:27

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:13

This doesn't suggest, that he isn't the worst out of the 4.

But you said clearly. He’s already boxed Haney six times, Tank is small at the weight, fair enough, Lopez leads the way. He’s not clearly anything.

Yes, he's clearly the worst.

Haney has shown less weaknesses and more class with about the same level of competition.

Tank has beaten better guys and also shown less weaknesses.

Lopez has defeated the best man at that weight.

How it's not clear?

How can it be clear if they haven’t boxed?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:09

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 04:07 Tank will bash each of them out.

Garcia is clearly the worst.

No, he’s not. He’s just stepped up against a very good boxer at 22 years old and won by ko. He’s got huge ability.

Agreed. There's no evidence that he's "clearly" the worst. He's 22 and just hammered an Olympic champion who'd not been stopped before.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:58

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:32

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 05:27
But you said clearly. He’s already boxed Haney six times, Tank is small at the weight, fair enough, Lopez leads the way. He’s not clearly anything.

Yes, he's clearly the worst.

Haney has shown less weaknesses and more class with about the same level of competition.

Tank has beaten better guys and also shown less weaknesses.

Lopez has defeated the best man at that weight.

How it's not clear?

How can it be clear if they haven’t boxed?

Of course, head-to-head meetings make the most conclusive arguments. However, fighters somehow become favorites or underdogs before they face each other.

Got to be Lopez at the minute, I’d actually have him favourite in any head to head.

I think Davis beats Garcia by ko, but Haney would outbox him.

Haney v Lopez would be close imo, think he’s being underestimated slightly.

I reckon Loma could easy still be in the mix. Could see him beating Garcia and Davis.

Love to see mikey Garcia back in mix as well. Wasting his time at welter.

1. Teofimo
2. Garcia
3. Tank
4. Haney

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 04:07 Tank will bash each of them out.

Garcia is clearly the worst.

5'5 Tank with a reach disadvantage isn't going to beat 5'10 Garcia I don't think. Garcia will land on him.

Haney is the worst. He will get starched by any of the other three.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 07:50

DrDuke wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 04:07 Tank will bash each of them out.

Garcia is clearly the worst.

5'5 Tank with a reach disadvantage isn't going to beat 5'10 Garcia I don't think. Garcia will land on him.

Haney is the worst. He will get starched by any of the other three.

Tank seems to deliver his power well, while Garcia hasn't shown any special defensive skills yet.

Haney looks just a bit better than Garcia up to the date.

Apart from getting caught in the second round, what has Garcia done wrong? Factor in he will very likely have all the judges on his side and he’s a hard man to beat.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021, 10:03 Apart from getting caught in the second round, what has Garcia done wrong? Factor in he will very likely have all the judges on his side and he’s a hard man to beat.

Being caught is only the result, caused by his drawbacks. He is stationary, no head or feet movement. Relies only on handspeed and power. And on the judges, you got that right. It indeed looks like now, that he can't be defeated close.

If Luke Campbell can drop you, Gervonta can.

Garcia has looked a bit raw and earlier on I’ve actually been surprised by some of his mistakes. But the Reynosos are seriously improving him.

I think Haney will have a good fight and peoples opinion will swing back. He’s a very, very good boxer