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gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 17:09 I'd fight anybody on God's Green Earth for 1 Migllion dollars.

I could never think of it as a lowball offer.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 17:12

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 17:09 I'd fight anybody on God's Green Earth for 1 Migllion dollars.

I could never think of it as a lowball offer.

If it was worth 3mm you wouldnt fight for 1mm

Remember porter pays management, promoter and training fees out of that 1mm. Then half goes to uncle sam. Hes only got about 3 years to maximize revenue before retiring

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 18:46 I would think he's being cheap because Crawford vs Porter ain't exactly gonna set any Box Office records.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Jan 2021, 05:14

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 18:46 I would think he's being cheap because Crawford vs Porter ain't exactly gonna set any Box Office records.

The audience figures for several Shawn Porter bouts at welterweight:

• Porter-Formella peaked at 1.225m and averaged 1.077m viewers.

• Porter-Ugas peaked at 2.197m and averaged 2.142m viewers.

• Porter-Spence Jr. generated 300K PPV buys.

• Porter-Thurman peaked at 3.94m and averaged 2.4m viewers.

• Porter-Broner peaked at 3m and averaged 2.33m viewers.

The audience figures and Bud’s purses for several Terence Crawford bouts at welterweight:

• Crawford-Brook peaked at 2.078m and averaged 2.029m viewers (Bud’s purse was $4m).

• Crawford-Kavaliasuskas fight peaked 1.512m viewers and averaged 1.481m viewers (Bud’s purse was $4m).

• Crawford-Khan generated 150K PPV buys (Bud’s purse was $5.5m).

• Crawford-Benavidez peaked at 2.708m and averaged 2.245m viewers (Bud’s purse was $3.625m).

Therefore, Shawn Porter is worth more than $1m to face Terence Crawford, especially when you consider the fact Showtime received $1.2m to face a weak opponent like Sebastian Formella.

And let's not forget that Kell Brook was rewarded with a $2m payday for his willingness to engage in last November's mismatch against Terence Crawford.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jan 2021, 10:49

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Jan 2021, 05:14

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021, 18:46 I would think he's being cheap because Crawford vs Porter ain't exactly gonna set any Box Office records.

The audience figures for several Shawn Porter bouts at welterweight:

• Porter-Formella peaked at 1.225m and averaged 1.077m viewers.

• Porter-Ugas peaked at 2.197m and averaged 2.142m viewers.

• Porter-Spence Jr. generated 300K PPV buys.

• Porter-Thurman peaked at 3.94m and averaged 2.4m viewers.

• Porter-Broner peaked at 3m and averaged 2.33m viewers.

The audience figures and Bud’s purses for several Terence Crawford bouts at welterweight:

• Crawford-Brook peaked at 2.078m and averaged 2.029m viewers (Bud’s purse was $4m).

• Crawford-Kavaliasuskas fight peaked 1.512m viewers and averaged 1.481m viewers (Bud’s purse was $4m).

• Crawford-Khan generated 150K PPV buys (Bud’s purse was $5.5m).

• Crawford-Benavidez peaked at 2.708m and averaged 2.245m viewers (Bud’s purse was $3.625m).

Therefore, Shawn Porter is worth more than $1m to face Terence Crawford, especially when you consider the fact Showtime received $1.2m to face a weak opponent like Sebastian Formella.

And let's not forget that Kell Brook was rewarded with a $2m payday for his willingness to engage in last November's mismatch against Terence Crawford.

Let's not forget that Bob Arum has done nothing but lose money with Crawford. That's why he wants to make it back.

1okstcsb wrote: ↑19 Jan 2021, 00:21 Keith Thurman says he would fight Crawford for 500k

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jan 2021, 16:54 You yourself always go on about how Boxing is dying, and nobody knows who these guys are anymore. As overpaid as Crawford is along with most other name Boxers are you actually think he's made a profit with him under contract at any point?

marvelous marv wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 01:24 Isn't Porter the mandatory for Crawford? Let it go to purse bids

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Jan 2021, 11:31 "Thurman To Arum: Stop Talking Sh-t! Not My Fault You Can’t Afford Fight For Crawford"

The former WBA/WBC welterweight champion thus took to social media Thursday to trash Terence Crawford’s promoter. Between insults, Thurman contended that he did not ask for $10 million last year to challenge Crawford.

Thurman also stated that he realizes a fight with Crawford would be worth less during the COVID-19 pandemic. He is not, however, willing to take “a discount” to fight the unbeaten WBO welterweight champion.

“F--- Bob Arum! All right?,” Thurman said. “Why you talkin’ sh-t, Bob? Keep your God-damn mouth shut. Keep your God-damn mouth shut, Bob. You want a cheap-ass fight? I’ll punch you in your sh-t for free. How ‘bout that? That’s the only cheap-ass sh-t you’re gonna get out of me. I’ll give you a free lick, boy.”

“Look, man, I’m gonna snap on Bob real quick,” Thurman said. “Bob, you a piece of sh-t. You’re one of the worst f--kin’ promoters in the game. OK? All of your great fighters left yo ass! Oscar De La Hoya. Left yo ass! Floyd Mayweather. Left yo ass! Manny Pacquiao. Left yo ass! Am I missing anybody? Shoot, Crawford, he about to leave yo ass! He about to leave yo ass! Look, man, Bob, Bob, you know what’s up.

“You know I never asked for anything. It ain’t my fault you can’t afford a great fight. OK? You cheap as sh-t. You can barely pay your own fighters good money. OK? That ain’t my fault. You got ESPN backing you, you got Terence Crawford, one of the most talented welterweights in the welterweight division, and you can’t get him paid. You can’t make him famous enough.”

“You got Max Kellerman sippin’ on all the Crawford juice – and I love Crawford, too,” Thurman continued. “He’s a great fighter, since the amateurs. I love that boy. I love all my peers, cuz we the real ones. We the real ones. Bob, Bob, what did $2 million buy you your last fight? A bullsh-t ass fight. Come on, now. Come on, now, Bob. OK?

“And now, you mad cuz the PBC opponents, you can’t afford a PBC fighter. You can’t afford us, Bob. I’m sorry. All right? You cheap. You want f--kin’ discounts. I know it’s COVID. I know it’s hard out here in the streets. We all feel it. We all know it. You know what I’m saying? But you ain’t gonna get me on no discount. You ain’t gonna pay no full price, but you ain’t gonna get no discount. Look, Bob, stop talking sh-t. All right? Stop talking sh-t. You’re a horrible f--kin promoter. You got all this talent and you can’t do sh-t wit it. All right?”

“PBC, we make money together, baby. We do it all together. All right?,” Thurman added. “You wouldn’t have a dime in the bank account if it wasn’t for all Mexicans and Africans and Filipinos and all the other ethnicities that you’ve ever worked with throughout your whole career. All right? And then you don’t wanna pay people? This is world-class boxing. You can’t afford a world-class fight? You got ESPN backing you. They don’t got no money, Bob? They don’t got no money? Man, look, stop talking sh-t. All right? Ain’t gonna be no fight. You can’t afford it. All right? You offered Shawn Porter $1 million. What’s $1 million after taxes? Six-hundred thousand? Man, get the f--- out our face, Bob. Get the f--- out our faces. All right?

“You can barely help Terence Crawford make any real money. He’s one of the best fighters you’ve had for years. Yeaaaars! He can’t make no money. Man, look, man, I don’t need no $10 million. But I need some respect. And the respect come in the check. All right? The respect come in the check. Ain’t my fault that I’m an opponent and I’m worth more money than your champion, your undefeated welterweight champion. That ain’t my fault. That’s your fault, Bob. That’s your fault, Bob. That’s evidence of you doing a sh-tty-ass job, Bob. OK? Man, stop talking sh-t, Bob. All right? Terence Crawford wanted to fight me last year. OK? Terence Crawford wants to fight Shawn Porter. Terence Crawford wants to fight Keith Thurman. Terence Crawford wants a great fight. Your f---in’ promoter can’t afford it, Terence. All right? He can’t put a good show for you. There’s no good show. You know? That’s right, man, f--- Bob!”