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World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 15:52
by Pugilist-specialist
I can recall Riddick Bowe putting his WBC belt in the bin, but Bowe also held the WBA and IBF belts.
Josh Warrington has just relinquished his title for a non-title fight at the same weight.
Apart from a retiring fighter, has anyone examples of this happening previously?

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 15:53
by margaret thatcher
canelo dumped the wbc because he didnt like them trying to force a golovkin fight at the time

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:09
by (craig)
Inoue rejected the WBC diamond belt after beating Donaire, good lad.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:13
by gilgamesh
By the way. I'd say the dumbest ever "giving up their belt" has to go to Mickey Bey. He gave up his belt I guess thinking that bigger fights were waiting for him because Al Haymon told him so, but he was so boring that the belt was the one and only thing that kept him in the running for big fights so that combined with losing not too long after to John Molina after horrible advice from his corner effectively killed his career.

More often than not when a guy gives up a belt, there's a good reason or he goes on to achieve something else. Mickey Bey gave up any possibility of his career ever advancing by giving up his belt.

Gotta be one of the bigger mistakes a boxer ever made.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:21
by Pugilist-specialist
margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 15:53 canelo dumped the wbc because he didnt like them trying to force a golovkin fight at the time
He went straight into a WBO fight 4 months later.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:23
by Boxing Prospect
Going to assume we're only considering ones where a fighter hasn't moved up/down

Moruti Mthalane (vacated rather than faced Amnat Ruenroeng in a mandatory)

Hekkie Budler (vacated the IBF title rather than faced Felix Alvarado, did keep the WBA title which he lost to Hiroto Kyoguchi)

Kyung Yun Lee (vacated IBF title to chase a fight with Hiroki Ioka - which doesn't answer the question but thought it was worthy of adding as he was the first IBF champion at 105)

Donnie Nietes (vacated WBO 115 to erm.... Errrrr... er)

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:23
by margaret thatcher
he gave up his wbc title because he admitted he didnt want to be forced into a fight with ggg, then he fought the much weaker liam smith next

it's a world champ who gave up his belt, exactly like the thread title :TU:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:25
by Pugilist-specialist
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 16:13 By the way. I'd say the dumbest ever "giving up their belt" has to go to Mickey Bey. He gave up his belt I guess thinking that bigger fights were waiting for him because Al Haymon told him so, but he was so boring that the belt was the one and only thing that kept him in the running for big fights so that combined with losing not too long after to John Molina after horrible advice from his corner effectively killed his career.

More often than not when a guy gives up a belt, there's a good reason or he goes on to achieve something else. Mickey Bey gave up any possibility of his career ever advancing by giving up his belt.

Gotta be one of the bigger mistakes a boxer ever made.
:TU:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:27
by Pugilist-specialist
margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 16:23 he gave up his wbc title because he admitted he didnt want to be forced into a fight with ggg, then he fought the much weaker liam smith next

it's a world champ who gave up his belt, exactly like the thread title :TU:
Thanks pal. I did put for a non-title fight in the OP - but not in the title :TU:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:28
by Coco
I agree you should never give up you belt, if you don't want to fight your mandatory you should unify

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:29
by Pugilist-specialist
Boxing Prospect wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 16:23 Going to assume we're only considering ones where a fighter hasn't moved up/down

Moruti Mthalane (vacated rather than faced Amnat Ruenroeng in a mandatory)

Hekkie Budler (vacated the IBF title rather than faced Felix Alvarado, did keep the WBA title which he lost to Hiroto Kyoguchi)

Kyung Yun Lee (vacated IBF title to chase a fight with Hiroki Ioka - which doesn't answer the question but thought it was worthy of adding as he was the first IBF champion at 105)

Donnie Nietes (vacated WBO 115 to erm.... Errrrr... er)
:TU:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:40
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 15:53 canelo dumped the wbc because he didnt like them trying to force a golovkin fight at the time
Are you TRYING to invite EO into this thread? :lol: :lol: :KO:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:43
by Ruthless-RKO
Pugilist-specialist wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 16:27
margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 16:23 he gave up his wbc title because he admitted he didnt want to be forced into a fight with ggg, then he fought the much weaker liam smith next

it's a world champ who gave up his belt, exactly like the thread title :TU:
Thanks pal. I did put for a non-title fight in the OP - but not in the title :TU:
Plus he moved down 1 pound literally. To fight for that WBO belt.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:58
by Lenny Cravats
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 16:40
margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 15:53 canelo dumped the wbc because he didnt like them trying to force a golovkin fight at the time
Are you TRYING to invite EO into this thread? :lol: :lol: :KO:
Thoughts? :confused:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 20:38
by Tuan_Jim
Lennox Lewis binned his WBA belt rather than fight Ruiz and then his IBF belt rather than fight Byrd.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 22:43
by Fray Bentos
Lloyd Honeyghan gave up his WBA belt than fight Harold Volbrecht - he would have had no problem with beating Volbrecht but at the time he would not fight a white South African because of that country's apartheid system. He was actually pictured throwing the WBA belt into a bin.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 04:07
by bennie
Jesus Salud, a Hawaiian fighter based in the States, relinquished his WBA super-bantamweight title in 1990 instead of going through with a mandated defence against Luis Mendoza in Colombia, where there was civil unrest. Salud had looked brilliant in winning the title from Mexico's Juan Jose Estrada in Los Angeles in December 1989 and went on to receive five more cracks at a world title but lost the lot. He now scratches his head at his long boxing career. "What was I doing in there!"
He fared better than the unfortunate Estrada, murdered by members of his own family.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 05:40
by Pugilist-specialist
Tuan_Jim wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 20:38 Lennox Lewis binned his WBA belt rather than fight Ruiz and then his IBF belt rather than fight Byrd.
Fray Bentos wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 22:43 Lloyd Honeyghan gave up his WBA belt than fight Harold Volbrecht - he would have had no problem with beating Volbrecht but at the time he would not fight a white South African because of that country's apartheid system. He was actually pictured throwing the WBA belt into a bin.
:TU: Both held another world title.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 05:42
by Pugilist-specialist
bennie wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 04:07 Jesus Salud, a Hawaiian fighter based in the States, relinquished his WBA super-bantamweight title in 1990 instead of going through with a mandated defence against Luis Mendoza in Colombia, where there was civil unrest. Salud had looked brilliant in winning the title from Mexico's Juan Jose Estrada in Los Angeles in December 1989 and went on to receive five more cracks at a world title but lost the lot. He now scratches his head at his long boxing career. "What was I doing in there!"
He fared better than the unfortunate Estrada, murdered by members of his own family.
I knew bennie would come good :TU:

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 05:47
by margaret thatcher
petey quillin vacated the wbo, went inactive for a year while andy lee won it, then returned and challenged lee (well, pete was overwieght so was non title)

so basically gave up a title, only to attempt to challenge for it next fight lol, weird

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 06:03
by bigjack
I think giving up 1 belt and keeping another is a lot defferent than giving up your only belt.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 06:17
by Steveh583
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 05:47 petey quillin vacated the wbo, went inactive for a year while andy lee won it, then returned and challenged lee (well, pete was overwieght so was non title)

so basically gave up a title, only to attempt to challenge for it next fight lol, weird
i was gonna say him :TU:

does giving up belts to move up in weight count? Theres loads in that case

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 06:18
by Boxing Prospect
Etsuko Tada gave up the WBO 105 female so her stable mate could win it... Then won it back a few fights later after stablemate vacated to have a kid

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 06:41
by banjo
Fray Bentos wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 22:43 Lloyd Honeyghan gave up his WBA belt than fight Harold Volbrecht - he would have had no problem with beating Volbrecht but at the time he would not fight a white South African because of that country's apartheid system. He was actually pictured throwing the WBA belt into a bin.
Aye, sadly he was forced by the WBA to write a grovelling apology to them so he could get a shot at Breland a few years later.

Re: World Champions who give up their belt

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 06:51
by smiling assassin
Charlie Edwards was extremely fortunate to keep his title after getting mullered by Martinez, only to vacate and move up in weight to avoid a rematch