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another dude said canelo would give aj/wilder/fury all they could handle. some dudes also make him 50-50 with elite, top 2 cruiser dorticos

got me thinking of this questiion

who do you think is the best hw canelo would beat?

Looking at BoxRecs top 25, I will go for #24 in Gerald Washington, or possibly Charles Martin at #15.

Hes a live dog against charr, martin, washington

Another reason why bridgerweight is ludicrous

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 18:46 another dude said canelo would give aj/wilder/fury all they could handle. some dudes also make him 50-50 with elite, top 2 cruiser dorticos

got me thinking of this questiion

who do you think is the best hw canelo would beat?

I wouldnt put dorticos at even money but i think canelo is a live dog there

I think betting wise canelo is the favorite against anyone 160 to 175 now. Doesn't mean hed win

At heavyweight lucus brown is probably the highest ranked (on boxrec {48th}) guy that i would defiantly back canelo to beat, definatly a few above that he could possibly beat.

I Back canelo against every 168, and Probably have him favourite against all 175s. But at cruiser beridis smokes him and likely the other topish guys, and all the top heavys bash him (wilder still leaves the tinyest bit of grey in my mind, but think thats stupidity talking).

Canelos Hype at the moment is interesting. its like he has been sparking top guys in a round, and not getting hit at all. sure he is my P4P #1 but, his last fight he went a dominant 12 with smith, Before that he was arguably losing after 10 to a very past prime Kov who then wilted, befor that a clear win though competitive fight with jacobs, and before that a couple of fights vs past prime GGG That over the 24 rounds i think GGG probably won.. Yet somehow, people think he is going to give Fury trouble? based on what? hes hardly dominating top 160lbers, yet he is going to be beating top 260lbers?

Bunch of nonsense. Even lame Lucas Browne would be able to use his size advantage. Sad fact is that Canelo couldnt even beat mw GGG.

He lost 4 or 5 rounds to Jacobs and most had him losing to GGG, calm down.

ppl seem to generally have him the fave to beat all the lhws and as well as a great shot of beating top cruisers, so i am curious about where those ppl see his limit vs hws

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 04:20 ppl seem to generally have him the fave to beat all the lhws and as well as a great shot of beating top cruisers, so i am curious about where those ppl see his limit vs hws

If he signed to fight Beterbiev where do you think the betting line would settle?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 04:20 ppl seem to generally have him the fave to beat all the lhws and as well as a great shot of beating top cruisers, so i am curious about where those ppl see his limit vs hws

Beating top Cruisers based on what?

he won't go above light heavy anyways. absolutely bollocks discussion!

H8Usernames wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 23:05 Bunch of nonsense. Even lame Lucas Browne would be able to use his size advantage. Sad fact is that Canelo couldnt even beat mw GGG.

100% agree the heavyweight division is completely different canelo wouldn't be able to do anything he's just too small.

Its totally unprecedented for middleweights to beat cruiserweights and heavyweights. Never been done

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:03 Its totally unprecedented for middleweights to beat cruiserweights and heavyweights. Never been done

RJJ and Toney both fought at middleweight and had some success at HW. I am assuming the question refers to moving up weight classes, rather than fighting at HW whilst you're a MW.

Verdi wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:14

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:03 Its totally unprecedented for middleweights to beat cruiserweights and heavyweights. Never been done

RJJ and Toney both fought at middleweight and had some success at HW. I am assuming the question refers to moving up weight classes, rather than fighting at HW whilst you're a MW.

Impossible

James toney is much too small to beat a fighter of charrs caliber. You must be mistaken

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:19

Verdi wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:14

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:03 Its totally unprecedented for middleweights to beat cruiserweights and heavyweights. Never been done

RJJ and Toney both fought at middleweight and had some success at HW. I am assuming the question refers to moving up weight classes, rather than fighting at HW whilst you're a MW.

Impossible

James toney is much too small to beat a fighter of charrs caliber. You must be mistaken

He beat Holyfield who is significantly above Charr's calibre.

Verdi wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:26

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:19

Verdi wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:14

RJJ and Toney both fought at middleweight and had some success at HW. I am assuming the question refers to moving up weight classes, rather than fighting at HW whilst you're a MW.

Impossible

James toney is much too small to beat a fighter of charrs caliber. You must be mistaken

He beat Holyfield who is significantly above Charr's calibre.

He's pulling your leg, mate.

Gnome wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 18:29

Verdi wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:26

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑27 Jan 2021, 16:19

Impossible

James toney is much too small to beat a fighter of charrs caliber. You must be mistaken

He beat Holyfield who is significantly above Charr's calibre.

He's pulling your leg, mate.

In the 40s of the ranking there are some wastes like Lucas Browne. I guess, Canelo can handle him. Not sure, if he can deal with anyone higher. Probably Washington, who is often lethargic and soft.

It shows lot of Boxrec Members don't know much about boxing.

If you watch Ruiz fight against Roy Jones Jr, The refree was instructed to seperate them whenever Ruiz gets inside or
in a clich. Watch this fight and refree did it more than 100X times.

If Refree was natural and as they allow it in usuall heavyfight, Ruiz would have killed or permantly injured Roy jones .

Verdi wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 18:59 Looking at BoxRecs top 25, I will go for #24 in Gerald Washington, or possibly Charles Martin at #15.

Canelo has made everyone lose perspective lol. Martin is 6"5 250lbs

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 06:55

Verdi wrote: ↑26 Jan 2021, 18:59 Looking at BoxRecs top 25, I will go for #24 in Gerald Washington, or possibly Charles Martin at #15.

Canelo has made everyone lose perspective lol. Martin is 6"5 250lbs

yeah but he's a bum, a joke, a clown, a worthless piece of doodoo... cause joshua's power was too much when he landed punches on him in the boxing contest they had.

whereas canelo here is a god walking amongst mere mortals. holding back power on his body punches cause he knows he would kill em all.

lost back to back to ggg and got gifted a draw and robbed him off his belt in the rematch but only to make things exciting for us & so we all can cheer for our ginger strongboy and that he may never loose again.

Martin would fornicating destroy him.

My god the hype Canelo is getting now is unreal. Excellent boxer but wow.

Never been done at least not in the modern era, where middleweights go up to cruiser or heavy and beat bigger guys

Certainly greats like charles martin and gerald Washington would walk all over smaller fighters.

Guys like sam peter, rahman, ruiz, holyfield, dom guinn, arslan, arent on the level of someone like charles martin.