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keirw wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 04:07 Not sure why you have made a point to outline Canelo's height, as if it is an automatic disadvantage. It didn't do him any harm vs 6'3 Callum Smith.

Plenty of big men have difficulty landing clean on a shorter fighter with good head movement.

Not many people are saying he would best AJ or Fury, but there are plenty piss poor heavyweights out there Canelo could beat.

lazboy wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 03:47 Canelo would knock Ajagba out! If Ajagba ever agreed to fight Canelo, which he wouldn’t because he’s scared, Ajagba would wait until rd 1 started and then simply climb out of the ring, because he’s scared! Canelo would follow him out of the ring and would knock Ajagba out!

Boxtune wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 05:27

keirw wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 04:07 Not sure why you have made a point to outline Canelo's height, as if it is an automatic disadvantage. It didn't do him any harm vs 6'3 Callum Smith.

Plenty of big men have difficulty landing clean on a shorter fighter with good head movement.

Not many people are saying he would best AJ or Fury, but there are plenty piss poor heavyweights out there Canelo could beat.

It's Weight that matters my dear ,,,,Weight weight ... If refree plays fair, not take money , weight will wear him down in clich and Callum smith has no punching power and chin of a heavyweight ... Maybe he can give it a try at lightheavy or crusier weight which i doubt , let's see

keirw wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 06:37

Boxtune wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 05:27

keirw wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 04:07 Not sure why you have made a point to outline Canelo's height, as if it is an automatic disadvantage. It didn't do him any harm vs 6'3 Callum Smith.

Plenty of big men have difficulty landing clean on a shorter fighter with good head movement.

Not many people are saying he would best AJ or Fury, but there are plenty piss poor heavyweights out there Canelo could beat.

It's Weight that matters my dear ,,,,Weight weight ... If refree plays fair, not take money , weight will wear him down in clich and Callum smith has no punching power and chin of a heavyweight ... Maybe he can give it a try at lightheavy or crusier weight which i doubt , let's see

Weight is a factor, darling. More so than height (which you brought up).

But it isn't the only factor, punch variety, accuracy, footwork, head movement are also factors.

It is not inconceivable that one of the many rubbish heavyweights out there could be outboxed by by someone who is smaller but much better than them in every other way.

It is also not beyond the realms of possibility for the ref and judges to do Canelo a few favours if necessary, he is the man after all.

lazboy wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 03:47 Canelo would knock Ajagba out! If Ajagba ever agreed to fight Canelo, which he wouldn’t because he’s scared, Ajagba would wait until rd 1 started and then simply climb out of the ring, because he’s scared! Canelo would follow him out of the ring and would knock Ajagba out!

Boxtune wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 03:42 It shows lot of Boxrec Members don't know much about boxing, and obsessed with fighters they like.

If you watch Ruiz fight against Roy Jones Jr, The refree was instructed to seperate them whenever Ruiz gets inside or
in a clich. Watch this fight and refree did it more than 100X times. Even Pre-James Toney version of Evander Holifiled couldn't handle Ruiz on inside

If Refree was natural and as they allow it in usuall heavyfight fight, Ruiz would have killed or permantly injured Roy jones . And
Roy jones was 5'11", and James toney 5'10.5" and had an iron chin. while canelo is just 5'8"at best.


""the best hw canelo would beat""
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=245279&p=5501025#p5501025

Verdi wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 20:37

Boxtune wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 03:42 It shows lot of Boxrec Members don't know much about boxing, and obsessed with fighters they like.

If you watch Ruiz fight against Roy Jones Jr, The refree was instructed to seperate them whenever Ruiz gets inside or
in a clich. Watch this fight and refree did it more than 100X times. Even Pre-James Toney version of Evander Holifiled couldn't handle Ruiz on inside

If Refree was natural and as they allow it in usuall heavyfight fight, Ruiz would have killed or permantly injured Roy jones . And
Roy jones was 5'11", and James toney 5'10.5" and had an iron chin. while canelo is just 5'8"at best.


""the best hw canelo would beat""
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=245279&p=5501025#p5501025

Qawi was 5ft6, didn't start boxing till he was 25, yet was CW champion and had some success at HW.

Boxtune wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 17:12

keirw wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 06:37

Boxtune wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 05:27

It's Weight that matters my dear ,,,,Weight weight ... If refree plays fair, not take money , weight will wear him down in clich and Callum smith has no punching power and chin of a heavyweight ... Maybe he can give it a try at lightheavy or crusier weight which i doubt , let's see

Weight is a factor, darling. More so than height (which you brought up).

But it isn't the only factor, punch variety, accuracy, footwork, head movement are also factors.

It is not inconceivable that one of the many rubbish heavyweights out there could be outboxed by by someone who is smaller but much better than them in every other way.

It is also not beyond the realms of possibility for the ref and judges to do Canelo a few favours if necessary, he is the man after all.

No, weight can't be more of a factor than height, unless your are skinny as "Pencil" smith that fought Canelo lately

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 20:43

Verdi wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 20:37

Boxtune wrote: ↑28 Jan 2021, 03:42 It shows lot of Boxrec Members don't know much about boxing, and obsessed with fighters they like.

If you watch Ruiz fight against Roy Jones Jr, The refree was instructed to seperate them whenever Ruiz gets inside or
in a clich. Watch this fight and refree did it more than 100X times. Even Pre-James Toney version of Evander Holifiled couldn't handle Ruiz on inside

If Refree was natural and as they allow it in usuall heavyfight fight, Ruiz would have killed or permantly injured Roy jones . And
Roy jones was 5'11", and James toney 5'10.5" and had an iron chin. while canelo is just 5'8"at best.


""the best hw canelo would beat""
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=245279&p=5501025#p5501025

Qawi was 5ft6, didn't start boxing till he was 25, yet was CW champion and had some success at HW.

Literally every argument they make against canelo is made moot when you throw james toney back

Toney is actually 5 9.5 a whole half inch taller than canelo. He had an hof resume with some close wins and a couple close losses. Was humiliated by a legend

DrDuke wrote: ↑29 Jan 2021, 14:50 Why do you have to create a thread about how sh!tty the other thread is?

ldlamb wrote: ↑29 Jan 2021, 20:15 In the old days 160 lb guys beat 200 lb guys .....obviously, Canelo couldn’t beat a Heavyweight with even remotely similar skills because of the weight advantage....but there are plenty of trash heavyweights he could beat in a boxing match...because he is the far superior boxer. Boxing isn’t a street fight....there are rules meant to make the use of boxing skills an important component in who wins.